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Last week's question:
With federal and state grants, would you support St. Lawrence County setting up a municipal broadband internet program available to all county residents?
63.1% -- Yes
25.7% -- No
11.2% -- Unsure
Total responses: 412
Total comments: 145
Here are your comments:
Yes, there are lots of families who could benefit and prosper from easier access to the internet.
1/26/2015 5:37 AM
It is foolish to believe a grant program is a source of free funding. Those dollars come from the tax base. A hand-out based society does not prosper. The idea broadband is needed in every home for free is silly. Those who say they need this in order to get out of poverty are simply lying to themselves. It will be used to surf porn, watch Netflix, Facebook and keep up-to-date on Topix message boards. I support the continual improvement of our infrastructure, so that users who wish to have access can then pay for it. People cherish and take care of resources in which they are personal invested in.
1/26/2015 3:19 AM
1/25/2015 11:27 PM
Internet is the new source of news for a lot of people.
1/25/2015 8:17 PM
If I can tell Time Warner to take a hike…you bet!
1/25/2015 5:01 PM
State and federal grants need to be used for more important things!
1/25/2015 3:32 PM
Break the monopoly and the ever-increasing price rises of Verizon.
1/25/2015 10:33 AM
We definitely need something to compete with Time Warner.
1/25/2015 10:00 AM
Our county legislatures can't and are not capable to organize a two-car funeral without taxing us double.
1/25/2015 9:36 AM
I would only support it if all residents were to pay the same rate for the services. There should be no preferential treatment for low-income individuals. Dial-up is sufficient for finding jobs. Broadband is a luxury and should be treated as such.
1/25/2015 8:45 AM
Sure. Cut TWC down to size for its overcharging us…competition is good for prices. As long as it’s with Just bring it to everyone!
1/24/2015 9:40 PM
Coverage is very inconsistent over the county and this would help. It would also allow for more options in coverage for those who have limited to no choice currently.
1/24/2015 8:02 PM
That depends on so many things, especially cost and tax implications, it would be impossible for any thinking person to answer yes to this. Lower our taxes first!
1/24/2015 5:26 PM
As we all know the poverty level in St. Lawrence County seems to be at an all time low. Education is they key to moving past our present state. Families will be able to use the Internet for educational advancement (between online classes, regents review, to playing educational games for learning colors, shapes, abc’s ext.) This could really do some good for our communities.
1/24/2015 1:23 PM
There are many in this county that don't have internet at all. When my daughter was in high school we could not afford Time Warner and my daughter suffered in school because of it. A lot of her homework went incomplete because of our lack of internet and we lived to many miles from a library for her to use. And it is a shame in this day and age that there are still hundreds of children out there in the same circumstance.
1/24/2015 12:23 PM
As long as it was high speed internet I'd do anything to break the grip of Time Warner Cable. I'm sick of Ogdensburg signing exclusivity contracts with Time Warner without taking a vote from residents.
1/24/2015 12:11 PM
Not unless the county pays nothing. There are plenty of better uses for our tax dollars.
1/24/2015 11:41 AM
The sooner the better for business and individuals.
1/24/2015 10:19 AM
Yes. Absolutely. The more competition we offer to keep the giant telecoms on their toes, the better. I know some will respond that they don't want funds to come from our taxes. Well, I think if we had a good broadband program funded through grants, then maybe it would save us from having to get internet services from the greedy commercial telecoms. I would love to see a future with universal broadband coverage for anyone in the area. No need to use a cell tower or phone data plan. Just have it as a WAN wifi utility available for all. I know Google has been doing lots of internet service work down in a southern state for years, and we have nothing like that around here because the telecoms are too powerful.
1/24/2015 9:45 AM
Where do you think that grant money is coming from? The taxpayer. This is just another way to redistribute the wealth from those that pay their way to those who choose to not do so. If the word program is involved, taxpayer beware.
1/24/2015 8:54 AM
Sign me up!
1/24/2015 6:45 AM
They could never meet the metrics that SLIC established for their fiber optic connections.
1/23/2015 10:20 PM
Why not give us free internet? Why stop there? Free cars, free houses, free gas, free haircuts, free computers, etc. Who cares if we have no money to pay for it? When will it stop? When do we say enough is enough? Unfortunately, when it's too late.
1/23/2015 7:44 PM
Yes, Yes, Yes, anything would be better than having only high cost and low speed choices.
1/23/2015 5:40 PM
CTY would screw it up to much politics involved if they left that out then maybe.
1/23/2015 4:44 PM
It should be affordable and high speed enough to make it worthwhile--it would be great if there was some competition for Verizon and Time Warner.
1/23/2015 4:36 PM
Broadband internet is as critical at this point in time as telephone communication was in the past.
1/23/2015 4:35 PM
No more expensive, poorly run government projects…please!
1/23/2015 4:22 PM
Peel the government regulations and unleash the private sector is what should be done. This only adds to big brothers gigantic government apparatus which always, you guessed it, cost the consumer and the taxpayer. This is simply another government boondoggle to pad it coffers. On a similar note for all those along the river that do not receive cell service unless it's from Roger's Wireless in Canada…it isn't necessarily your carrier. Another government agency, the FCC, will not allow our U.S. carriers a stronger signal to override the Roger's signal. Write your Congress person and let them know. A word of warning though it will not do a darn bit of good. We can expect the same result with government run and regulated internet.
1/23/2015 3:52 PM
Will this be free to all the nice folks on welfare? Lets not fix the roads and bridges around this swamp.
1/23/2015 1:27 PM
Anything that would give us a break on high speed internet fees and competition for Time Warner or would county fees be fixed as well?
1/23/2015 12:33 PM
Not if the county runs it; we have enough bloated government and taxes. What they need to do is bring in competition. In Canton, TWC is my only option. It's now so expensive, I'm thinking of changing to a Verizon hotspot.
1/23/2015 11:41 AM
They are having a very hard time now trying to balance the budget on the backs of the working people. Another program for them to squander money on is not a good choice for the tax payers of the county.
1/23/2015 8:11 AM
If it goes to private companies not a government run entity.
1/23/2015 7:00 AM
Absolutely! Anything to help our rural area would be wonderful!
1/23/2015 5:15 AM
No! No to any more government in citizens lives. This is one more nutty plan to go wrong, and down the road be laced with unfunded mandates. Let the county manage without seizing more control of citizen's lives. Thank you.
1/23/2015 1:18 AM
Money should be used better elsewhere.
1/22/2015 11:22 PM
TWC has gotten out of hand.
1/22/2015 11:10 PM
I do not think government should compete with business that supply that already.
1/22/2015 9:36 PM
It's about time.
1/22/2015 9:31 PM
Don't ever see it happening.
1/22/2015 5:55 PM
1/22/2015 5:47 PM
At a reasonable price.
1/22/2015 4:17 PM
No thank you! Please keep the talons of government out of our lives.
1/22/2015 4:09 PM
Absolutely! I am not happy with the commercial options, in a village, so you know just how limited they are.
1/22/2015 3:41 PM
They make it sound like free money...It's not.
1/22/2015 3:09 PM
If it was high speed and cheaper than what I pay now, absolutely! It'd be nice to have a choice for an internet provider as opposed to only having one option!
1/22/2015 2:51 PM
It would be wonderful to have this service since we all use it these days...and TWC would be out of out lives.
1/22/2015 1:50 PM
The cable company charges way too much.
1/22/2015 1:40 PM
Anything to get away from Time Warner’s constantly rising rates.
1/22/2015 1:34 PM
Id like to know how all the welfare rats afford road runner. Are they selling drugs on the side?
1/22/2015 1:19 PM
We already have a few CLEC's in the area doing this. Why double the effort?
1/22/2015 12:01 PM
When is the last time the government properly implemented any sort of project? This is the industry I have worked in for over a decade and there is no way they would be able to properly plan and execute a project such as this, not to mention maintain throughout its lifespan. Then again the corporations are trying to suck the lifeblood out of us all, too, so you know what? I guess it doesn't really matter and you can go ahead and dump my tax dollars into internet connections for lazy people to watch Netflix all day or whatever goes on now. At least that will keep them off my lawn.
1/22/2015 11:56 AM
I'm leaning heavily toward no, because even with the best of intentions it'll be mismanaged into the ground. I've done a lot of work with/for regional ISPs and I know well how the wrong folks can make a complete disastrous mess of things. I also suspect they would massively overspend and pay consultants to do most of the work…which means I get to fund their mismanagement with my taxes. Otherwise, yeah, cool, great, broadband for everyone. The other utilities in our life aren't usually municipally funded/run, and it works fine: leave internet access to the private sector.
1/22/2015 11:54 AM
The county has a spending problem. They can't manage what they have on their plate now.
1/22/2015 11:38 AM
Yes; but with a condition: installation and activation schedule should give priority to areas that do not have a broadband network in placeor are served by cable companies that have not and will not implement broadband in their service areas.
1/22/2015 11:03 AM
1/22/2015 10:59 AM
Without it, the North Country stays in prehistoric times!
1/22/2015 10:52 AM
Give TWC some competition!
1/22/2015 10:33 AM
Time Warner's prices are obscene, and Verizon DSL is horrendously slow. Make it a public utility at a reasonable price.
1/22/2015 10:26 AM
They would find some way to add more fees.
1/22/2015 8:11 AM
Yes...as long as it is either free or at a very low cost. Time Warner Cable has been hitting us below the belt for too many years.
1/22/2015 7:40 AM
Sure. You really think that will happen? Come on man.
1/21/2015 6:47 PM
Then no one would get out doors for fresh air.
1/21/2015 4:54 PM
Of course, why not?
1/21/2015 4:31 PM
After it was installed it would benefit our county, but people seem to forget where the government gets this so-called grant money from, the working middle class. They are the ones to foot the bill! And you watch if it did go through the DSS will find a way so the welfare bums can get it free.
1/21/2015 4:02 PM
Yes town of Pitcairn over by the Girl Scout Camp doesn’t get any internet unless you get a satellite dish and that's slow and costly.
1/21/2015 3:20 PM
As long as we did not end up having to pay for it! When the grant was done it was done.
1/21/2015 3:20 PM
I am sick of TWC raising our rates, they are the only option we have for internet access that runs well. Its sad that in todays technology we cant get with the times have more than one option available to consumers.
1/21/2015 2:32 PM
Who's paying for all this free crap governments keep handing out?
1/21/2015 1:43 PM
What happens when the money runs out; you haven't specified who would oversee its operation, either financially or mechanically. This county has more to worry about then broadband.
1/21/2015 1:02 PM
Would love to save $35 a month that could go to the local economy rather than into Time Warner’s overflowing pockets.
1/21/2015 11:49 AM
I live on a secondary road and only have access to dial up which is very slow and undependable.
1/21/2015 11:07 AM
As long as it consistently worked, I would support this:
1/21/2015 10:45 AM
Here, I hear to all county residents. I have heard this about Time Warner Cable, Slic. But then when it comes down to getting it. Oh Well! You can't get it here…it's too far down a main road.
1/21/2015 9:44 AM
Time Warner has a monopoly
1/21/2015 9:38 AM
Only if it is done with a professional IT outfit, there is no way the county IT people could administer this. The cost of quality internet is high and if it could be done cheaper than the current rates I would support it but the problem is with anything run with our county government it will be messed up.
1/21/2015 8:49 AM
And our power and energy infrastructures should not be owned or controlled by foreign companies or countries.
1/21/2015 8:32 AM
The way the county does everything I seriously doubt it will be of any benefit other than lining someone else's pockets. The internet is way high like cable and phone. It won't be long before the middle working class of people will have to go without. Don't worry you welfare people will have yours provided free paid for with my tax dollars. When will it ever stop?
1/21/2015 7:53 AM
This municipality hasn't been very reliable and it's difficult to imagine it overseeing my/our/any broadband internet program. I'm leaning toward no way!
1/21/2015 7:39 AM
Depends on the speed, privacy concerns and price.
1/21/2015 7:24 AM
Another way to spend taxpayer money. Let the users pay for the system.
1/20/2015 10:49 PM
If I remember correctly, SLIC is already supposed to be doing this with several hundred of thousands in grant money. Build more cell towers cheaper and added safety!
1/20/2015 9:58 PM
Absolutely. I currently use dial-up, which is my only option other than satellite.
1/20/2015 9:58 PM
First would it be watched by any government office…like homeland Also, would it be affordable to everyone? I'm on dial up I can not afford paying any more but to get some things faster would be nice. The people wanting to do this need to know not everyone can pay that much out of their monthly budget.
1/20/2015 8:59 PM
Grants are still tax dollars and I really don't think I'd like to pay for someone's entertainment when they can't afford it themselves.
1/20/2015 4:54 PM
As with bringing electricity to rural areas, our county needs financial assistance in building this system.
1/20/2015 4:51 PM
Every time the government does something it always cost the taxpayer more money in taxes.
1/20/2015 4:38 PM
If St Lawrence County runs it, no. They already are running too many things, trash disposal, visiting nurses, teaching farm workers English, the list goes on and on. If they bring in competition or contract it to a private company, then yes.
1/20/2015 4:33 PM
Nope, I don’t want it, don't need it. I do not want a thing from any part of our government! Tax reforms you dirt bags! That’s what we would support. Lower taxes and nothing less. Stop with the gimmicks and tricks. Lower our taxes or we are leaving like many have already done. Grants are tricks with catches. How many politicians are in bed with the municipal broadband providers or getting a kickback? Let me guess income eligible would get it free or at a reduced rate, right? Or the poor children need it for school, right? If you want to give us a grant then grant we the people lower taxes on land, school and goods & services. Every time people are squeezed penniless the government dangles something shinny. It’s just like a damn carnival midway. Municipal internet yeah! That will definitely make my life and budget more manageable. How could I ever live without that? Put it in your pipe and smoke it!
1/20/2015 1:47 PM
There is a virtual monopoly in the area. We need more choices. This is another choice. Having only one big player is not good for prices, competition is always a good thing.
1/20/2015 1:41 PM
Would need more info.
1/20/2015 1:25 PM
You take grants then the taxpayer ends up paying to keep it going.
1/20/2015 1:02 PM
Heck yes, this is a no brainer.
1/20/2015 12:30 PM
Yes, if it reaches rural areas. I live in a rural area surrounded by Amish. My internet options are limited to dial-up on antiquated phone lines or install satellite dish service.
1/20/2015 11:46 AM
What a great idea to connect our community!
1/20/2015 11:01 AM
In today's world, everyone should have access to some type of internet connection. This county is large, but has a small population. Jobs are hard to come by and the internet could help with that.
1/20/2015 10:47 AM
There is a monopoly on some connections and leaves no economical way to connect and be versatile to other types of connections.
1/20/2015 10:33 AM
This would seem to be a good use of taxpayer dollars.
1/20/2015 10:22 AM
As long as it doesn't turn into a cash cow for the rep's and they keep cost half of any other provider.
1/20/2015 10:05 AM
But…I doubt the average person will be able to afford it.
1/20/2015 7:09 AM
If it sounds too good to be true...it probably is. So, when the grant money runs out and the feds cut the money from the budget...guess who pays? Taxpayers! There is already a tax surcharge on my internet bill to pay for those who can't afford internet just as there is a tax on my cellphone bill to pay for Obamaphones. Does it ever end? FYI...Common Core mandates all schools have internet. Ask your school district what they did with their race to the top dollars. That's one thing the money was for.
1/20/2015 7:03 AM
Only if it's free to subscribe.
1/20/2015 6:35 AM
Yes they should go after all the help they can get to bring reliable/fast service to all in the county. The state and federal government has plenty of money to help illegal/undocumented people in the country why not help the citizens out.
1/20/2015 5:49 AM
You bet I would. These days someone you should take what's available to them if it is going to be of benefit. I hope the county jumps all over this because you know as well as I do that it won't be available when we may actually need it instead of having it offered to us right now for future use.
1/20/2015 5:37 AM
Keep Time Warner away from it or nobody will be able to afford it.
1/20/2015 5:36 AM
As long as we are not taxed more. Need to run TWC out of town, they are price gougers.
1/20/2015 5:15 AM
Would need much more info then this allows for. One simple question does not give the detail needed to help decide the issue.
1/19/2015 10:44 PM
I know professionals who do not have broadband access at home and it should not be happening in this day and age.
1/19/2015 9:37 PM
Time Warner has the market on internet and cable. Their needs to be choices for people and if Massena did it right the price would be reasonable for people to afford. Too bad cable would not be part of that choice.
1/19/2015 9:31 PM
We have a federally subsidized (grants) broadband internet program already...its SLIC, speeds are amazing, costs are reasonable, service is excellent, and all money stays right here in the North Country.
1/19/2015 9:20 PM
I'm not one for big government, but the county should step up and do something about broadband/internet access. TWC has a monopoly choke hold on most of us. I pay 65 dollars a month for basic internet through TWC, no other services, just internet access. The TWC access is poor, I can't stream Netflix to my TV with constant feed and high def. During a typical 30-minute period, there will be at least 2-3 one minute pauses where the TV is waiting to download. Looking at our county's typical handling of things, I'm not sure that the county should be doing this. If they contract it out on an annual/semi-annual bid contract or take steps to bring in competition, that I will support.
1/19/2015 9:07 PM
St. Lawrence County needs better and faster internet service. It's way slower than most of the world.
1/19/2015 7:53 PM
Yes, and while they are at it, I'd support them also coming up with a municipal cable TV alternative. I am sick of having no competition for TV service because the exclusive franchise is given to one provider who then decides who will get service and what those service packages and prices will look like.
1/19/2015 7:42 PM
As long as it was available to everyone. I can already get broadband through Verizon, but the municipal program should also be available to everyone, at a cheaper cost.
1/19/2015 6:40 PM
It would be nice to have good internet service available to all county areas, not just in the populated areas. Living in the country and having only TDS available with slow DSL makes it virtually impossible to even check email in a timely fashion. Its time to make up to date services available to all areas.
1/19/2015 5:48 PM
First you want less government jobs to help the economy, then you would go and think up of some government funded broadband and put people that do this for a living out of work cause government can do it cheaper? Our government is so screwed a state senator is worried about making law in NY to not be able to declaw cats…that’s something to really worry about!
1/19/2015 5:45 PM
With grants only!
1/19/2015 5:32 PM
If state and federal monies are involved, the broadband access needs to available to all residents, no matter how rural. Currently it seems that even when rural broadband service is being funded by grants, clumps of larger populations which can make money for the entities involved are served more than isolated under served households.
1/19/2015 5:27 PM
St. Lawrence County elected officials can't run the government let alone frivolous internet. Why cannot the grants be used to expand the tax base and bring some decent jobs to the area?
1/19/2015 5:18 PM
If it was at the same rate or lower than what I am paying now for the internet.
1/19/2015 4:53 PM
Huh? What would be the cost? Say federal and state grants all you want, but there will be cost. I know it, you know it and federal and state agencies know it!
1/19/2015 4:13 PM
There isn't enough information provided to honestly answer this question. Who is paying for it? What is the cost per residence? If I don't want it, do I have to pay anyway thru taxes? So many questions before one can really have an answer.
1/19/2015 4:09 PM
As much as I like free stuff...everything comes with a cost, I would need more information.
1/19/2015 2:52 PM
Yes, might drive down the price of other internet providers.
1/19/2015 2:43 PM
That would be nice and while they're at it we should have natural gas available to all also.
1/19/2015 2:31 PM
Everyone should have the opportunity to visit adult websites.
1/19/2015 2:05 PM
If that means Time Warner goes down the road, I'd support it.
1/19/2015 1:50 PM
As long as it not done by Jet web or Time Warner Cable… thank you so much.
1/19/2015 1:48 PM
Nothing is Free. Us worker slobs are paying for it.
1/19/2015 1:30 PM
It would only be another way of forcing people to use and would no doubt cost way too much! Just another money grab!
1/19/2015 1:11 PM
No! Keep the county out of commerce regarding internet service. Everything this county bureaucracy touch's costs more, provides less quality, and generally gets fouled up. With Time Warner wanting to re-label internet service a utility in New York state, this county management idea is foolish. Thank you.
1/19/2015 12:32 PM
Absolutely, TWCNY is getting abusively high.
1/19/2015 12:14 PM
Opens the opportunities to greater knowledge which can lead to greater freedom educationally, economically, and personally.
1/19/2015 11:45 AM
Should be privately owned company, not county government.
1/19/2015 11:43 AM
We need it if for nothing else for our students…at speeds of 2.4 when we are lucky from Slic when we live only 2 1/2 miles from the main office, we need more competition at levels that people can afford. With students needing a computer to do most of their school work, let alone a computer for the home too. It sucks when the evening is spent waiting for the things to buffer out .
1/19/2015 10:13 AM
It should stay private.
1/19/2015 10:02 AM
Only if the start building in under-served areas.
1/19/2015 9:45 AM
You keep asking the same question over and over again. Free this, subsidized that. The answer is earn your living.
1/19/2015 9:29 AM
The state and feds shouldn't be spending money on projects like this.
1/19/2015 9:15 AM
Yes, but how about the roads first, or low interest home improvement loans.
1/19/2015 8:46 AM
The cost would over do the benefit.
1/19/2015 8:42 AM
Yes, most definitely. Where I live, the only option is Time Warner, and, that is not much of an option. Their prices are way too high, service can be a joke at times. Quite honestly, this should be the first step of government taking over all communications and electrical power production and distribution.
1/19/2015 8:39 AM
People in the village of Potsdam are being held hostage by Time Warner and its excessive pricing!
1/19/2015 8:33 AM
Government should not be in charge of services.
1/19/2015 7:58 AM