This week’s question:
Communities throughout St. Lawrence County host farmer’s markets during the growing season.
How often do you visit a farmer’s market each summer?
Results will be posted Monday, Aug. 4.
Last week's question:
The Ogdensburg Bridge and Port Authority has plans to extend the runway at Ogdensburg International Airport enough to allow an airline with jets to offer passenger service there. Since then, Massena Town Supervisor Joseph Gray has said he would like a similar arrangement at Richards Field.
Would you favor development at one or both of those airports?
37.1% -- Yes, Ogdensburg.
32.6% -- Yes, Massena.
23.1% -- Yes, both
7.3% -- No, neither
Total responses: 386
Total comments: 107
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Sick and tired of these wasteful projects using tax payer money. These projects are just pork barrel spending and will do nothing to help the economy. These airports cannot support themselves without taxpayer monies. They should be closed!
7/27/2014 8:56 PM
Ogdensburg is more strategically located to tap Ottawa market as well as Watertown and 1000 Islands. Can also easily serve Massena Canton and Potsdam.
7/27/2014 8:51 PM
Ogdensburg makes sense because most of Canadian flyers would be from Ottawa area
7/27/2014 5:02 PM
Jet service is necessary in North Country but only at one of one airport, not both. A jet connection to a larger airport would open up travel opportunities for us as well as our Canadian neighbors.
7/27/2014 4:25 PM
I think there should be a new airport half way between the two. The cost would be about the same.
7/27/2014 3:24 PM
St Lawrence County as whole would benefit
7/27/2014 11:11 AM
A total waste of money that would be better spent on highways. This is about ego and not what makes sense.
7/27/2014 10:11 AM
To extend Massena airport would be less costly to extend and a more modern terminal. I think Massena should be pushing harder for another airline to fly into Massena.
7/27/2014 8:22 AM
Either one, but not both.
7/26/2014 7:01 PM
To have it in both places seems redundant and silly. Ogdensburg's runway is land-locked by highways at both ends. That doesn't seem feasible to me. Do it in Massena.
7/26/2014 6:01 PM
Ogdensburg is the more centrally located airport and therefore should be the one to get improvements.
7/26/2014 3:46 PM
Why not both? It's not fair to allow one and not the other.
7/26/2014 2:43 PM
I have been to both airports I can't see why they would want to put any money into the Ogdensburg airport. It is too small. Massena is a lot larger better to fly in and out of.
7/26/2014 9:59 AM
Who cares…as long as one of them actually does it.
7/25/2014 2:33 PM
It would be nice if the flight tickets were a more reasonable price! When I fly out of Massena there is always 3 or more stops with layovers in between. This is not convenient! So why charge such a high price? Maybe adding more airlines will create more affordable flight prices and more jobs to the North Country.
7/25/2014 1:33 PM
I think Massena would be more central for Northern NY/St. Lawrence County. But whether they choose Ogdensburg or Massena, we don't need two in such a short distance.
7/25/2014 1:24 PM
Ogdensburg Airport is much more accessible to potential Ottawa area flight passengers than is Massena. A quick glance at vehicles parked in Ogdensburg terminal's lot will reveal a majority of Ontario license plates. Ogdensburg is close enough to Massena, Canton, Potsdam, and Gouverneur to serve this whole region well.
7/25/2014 11:15 AM
Can never have too many options.
7/25/2014 9:12 AM
Massena currently has a larger runway and an updated terminal. Only logical to make Massena the hub.
7/25/2014 9:03 AM
Massena will be far less expensive and not have to move a state highway.
7/25/2014 7:58 AM
Ogdensburg is more centrally located, and allows easier access to major highways. It makes sense to expand the airport in Ogdensburg, not in Massena.
7/25/2014 7:31 AM
Massena is an International Airport with more navigational facilities. Two runways for landings for different wind directions, while Ogdensburg has only one runway and minimal facilities and being so close to the St. Lawrence river, experience many foggy days when airplanes are not able to land safely.
7/25/2014 7:04 AM
We don't need it at both. We've got to stop all this "me too" crap of wasteful multiple development.
7/25/2014 12:23 AM
We don't need two. There is already one in Plattsburgh. Too many will spoil the pot.
7/24/2014 12:03 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how "local yokel politicians" can't work together to make something happen, when in fact both would benefit...rather than to create chaos. Seriously, why would we need 2 "airports" 30 miles apart having their own extended jet runways? We as a whole would be fortunate to get grants for one where both can use independently! This spoiled "I want one too because they are going to have one will only" put a wrench in the gears" and the whole proposition will be put on hold or back filed in the" to look at much later list" for upper political reasons!
7/24/2014 11:28 AM
I fly into and out of Massena about once a month. Cape Air provides great service. But if they could extend the runway and get more carriers, that would be great!
7/24/2014 11:15 AM
It would be a great thing to have in the North County. As long as they keep their schedules and don't cancel flights at whim.
7/24/2014 10:22 AM
It would be nice not to have to travel three hours to Syracuse.
7/24/2014 10:11 AM
Mr. Gray should have made the arrangements to do this instead of carping about what Ogdensburg gets. If you think you need this Mr. Gray I suggest you do the work for it.
7/24/2014 9:33 AM
Retire those little old worn out prop planes that seem like they should have been retired a long time ago.
7/24/2014 9:19 AM
What has the ‘burg got to offer? Only the political obo authority, run down real estate and no industry.
7/24/2014 9:14 AM
They need to get a new air service. I've had four flights in a row cancelled by Cape Air! They are unreliable. They need to get jets into one airport or both!
7/24/2014 8:20 AM
Everyone play nice!
7/24/2014 6:31 AM
Of what I've known for over 20 years I've heard Massena talking here and there about expansion but never moved forward. If the town really wanted it you'd think the supervisor would put his mouth into action. You hear a lot of talk from the Town of Massena but never any action from either Village or Town. You see a lot of businesses downsizing and leaving but no growth. Either way, if these two would work together, Ogdensburg could concentrate on getting flights in and out going west. Massena could concentrate on getting flights in and out going east and south East. This would benefit the North Country I believe. But Massena needs to get people into office that will do what they should and get Massena to the great place it use to be.
7/24/2014 6:02 AM
Makes sense. Nothing against Massena but Ogdensburg has the better location.
7/23/2014 10:31 PM
It was offered to Ogdensburg first, Massena is only trying to horn in on it now. I say they should be left out and get their own idea.
7/23/2014 10:06 PM
I like the peace and quiet. I work near an airport and I don't like the noise.
7/23/2014 7:56 PM
Especially not if I lived in the surrounding area. Just wait til you see all the collateral needs and requirements of such a fiasco tax wise when after a few years the no-tax situation runs out and everyone has to pick up the tab meanwhile and afterwards when all that's left is a drag-race strip. The current financial impetus to bring shoppers, travelers, etc., won't last long enough to support this. It oscillates and changes every few years. It appears to me to be a myopic strategy. Not that I would mind being proven wrong, but unfortunately I don't think I am. Where do you think that first 12 million will come from, by the way.
7/23/2014 7:45 PM
Time to stop competing - let's get one good airport with options. Ogdensburg has the airline wanting to fly out of it -- so let's get going.
7/23/2014 7:21 PM
I am from Ogdensburg originally, so I feel I can offer an unbiased opinion. The North Country probably (but maybe not) needs an airport. I have not used the Ogdensburg airport since the early 1980s when I was working as a field service technician for Mitel in Ogdensburg. Thirty-three years! My suggestion would be to find the population center of St. Lawrence County and locate a new airport there. Several years ago, my boss and I looked at a county map, and it seemed, by eyeball only, that Madrid was the answer - equidistant from and to all areas of SLC. Ogdensburg and Massena both have seen better days. It may be time to employ some new thinking.
7/23/2014 4:59 PM
Close the Ogdensburg airport, it's too close to Watertown, only an hour away. Stop wasting money, Massena is the better choice.
7/23/2014 4:12 PM
Forget Massena, it's the drug haven of St. Lawrence County. Alcoa and the Massena Hospital will be gone in just a few years and you will not even need an airport then. The residents will all be fleeing the high tax and no service area.
7/23/2014 2:06 PM
I believe the North Country would benefit from larger airport, longer runways and bigger planes. But, I do believe a regional airport would make more sense instead of two different airports attempting to do the same type improvements only 20 miles from each other; especially if taxpayer money is used. Be smart about expansion, that's all I ask.
7/23/2014 2:00 PM
It is closer to Ottawa if it went in Ogdensburg. Prices are higher in Ottawa than Montreal for flying.
7/23/2014 1:46 PM
Without a rooftop highway, investment in our airports is cheap in comparison and vital to keep our local economy accessible to the national and international community.
7/23/2014 1:21 PM
Massena already has better more updated facilities. Why waste taxpayer money improving a location 30 miles away?
7/23/2014 11:46 AM
Both could benefit from Canadian riders. One concentrates on southern destinations, the other concentrates on westerly destinations.
7/23/2014 8:34 AM
Direct route from Ottawa.
7/23/2014 8:03 AM
Considering how busy the Plattsburgh airport is both would be good.
7/23/2014 7:43 AM
Yes to both, but only if they can get a reliable airline in that has decent prices and decent destinations
7/23/2014 6:53 AM
Massena's runway does not have the required depth and strength of base.
7/23/2014 6:24 AM
Joe Gray sounds like a whiny 4 year old. Some other kid is getting something and he's not! I think it's great that the city is finally getting something that may spur some growth. Now if they could just get a new mayor, and replace some of the councilors that have been there too long. They're way to comfortable.
7/22/2014 10:13 PM
The Ogdensburg Bridge and Port Authority is supposed to promote regional growth but is focusing solely on Ogdensburg. Meanwhile the airport in Massena is closer to being able to accommodate larger planes. The runway is currently longer and can be extended without having to move a state highway. The terminal building has been already been expanded yet these steps would still need to be taken before anything can happen in Ogdensburg. The project in Ogdensburg is far more costly because more work needs to be done. If you believe that the funding would be from a government grant and won't cost taxpayers a thing, you are wrong. Where do you think grant money comes from? It's comes from taxes! Sadly though the people who make these decisions are not known for being financially responsible or wise so they will probably throw tons of cash (or manure) at Ogdensburg in hopes that it will help things bloom.
7/22/2014 9:37 PM
Massena is a failing town and there will be nothing left there in 20 years.
7/22/2014 7:31 PM
7/22/2014 7:22 PM
Why shouldn't they both share in it? Canadians will flock here to take advantage of the cheaper flights.
7/22/2014 6:45 PM
Why would anyone need to fly out of or into Ogdensburg, what's there?
7/22/2014 6:15 PM
Why waste further tax dollars to improve OIA when Massena has already has an advanced airport?
7/22/2014 5:52 PM
Massena Town Supervisor Joseph Gray is always jumping on someone else’s bandwagon. Ogdensburg International Airport can handle the air traffic. No need for Massena to be involved.
7/22/2014 5:01 PM
Great idea! It would make transportation so much easier. It would be nice to have passenger trains in the area, too.
7/22/2014 4:57 PM
First come first served. O’burg has plans…oops Massena wants one. It will end up just like I-98 was planned to follow us 11 no Massena wants it on 37. Too bad Massena…you should not get either you helped screw up I-98 Keep your plans and paws out of what O’burg wants. You should have done it years ago. So shut up and live with it.
7/22/2014 4:41 PM
Ogdensburg got in first so let them develop it, There won't be enough traffic to keep both fields busy, Massena should have hopped at the chance a while back.
7/22/2014 3:31 PM
I look forward to an expanded runway in Ogdensburg. Mr. Gray has opposed this from the get go, favoring Massena, with the opinion that the two airports should not compete, and there is only room for one airport in the county. Well Mr. Gray, in Ogdensburg we have been years trying to recover from the devastating affects of "urban renewal." Our city fathers were not far sighted enough at the time to say "we don't want any." We do not need our neighbors in Massena throwing up roadblocks to the infrastructure we need for some hope of resurrection.
7/22/2014 3:10 PM
I think it would be wonderful to be able to get a flight locally, but what would a flight cost with a jet service?
7/22/2014 12:56 PM
So glad that the gov't always finds a way to throw money around to "pet" projects! The airline industry & and airports for that matter are too heavily subsidized by government...ask Watertown how things have gone with passenger carriers? How many carriers have been there? Our government will dump some money into the expansion, a carrier will come in, and the only result will be that Canadians will drive south to catch a flight to Florida to avoid paying "their" gov't surcharges/fees/taxes on airline tickets! Expansion of any airport for passenger services is a waste of money which will have little or no impact on local economies and do very little, if anything to impact the economy of either town.
7/22/2014 12:47 PM
Ogdensburg is closest to Ottawa and the busy Capitol corridor.
7/22/2014 12:43 PM
Don't need two airports.
7/22/2014 11:51 AM
Being able to take a trip without a 2/12/hr drive at the end of it would be great. Bring it on.
7/22/2014 11:06 AM
A lot of work already done in Massena. Less cost involved! Government spends too much on everything!
7/22/2014 10:58 AM
This is made for Ogdensburg. The only thing we need is a reliable taxi service. We have tried on numerous occasions to get a taxi service from the airport. There was none - why? Are they so busy during the week that they can't take care of people on the weekend? Who are they taking around during the week? Hmmm... I know.
7/22/2014 10:23 AM
That's where the private sector airline wants to be. Plus it's a directly below Ottawa. Only makes sense!
7/22/2014 10:07 AM
As long as no tax payer money is used. Privatize the airports
7/22/2014 9:41 AM
I fly a few times a year from Oklahoma and it would save a lot of driving to Waddington from Syracuse. It would serve a lot of businesses also.
7/22/2014 9:31 AM
One wouldn't even get used to its full capacity.
7/22/2014 7:32 AM
I think just one is best as two may be setting up for failure for one of them. Ogdensburg seems a good fit.
7/22/2014 7:31 AM
Ogdensburg is a more practical location for an airport that can accommodate jets. Massena, not so much.
7/22/2014 7:09 AM
Why spend the money, all we need are buses or taxis to get out of the North Country.
7/22/2014 6:13 AM
We do not need that expense of expansion at two local airports. Ogdensburg is more centered of the two.
7/22/2014 4:39 AM
If it would help to bring more to the area yes. The money is going to be used for something may as well help to up here.
7/21/2014 11:53 PM
This is a no-brainer! A distance of 25 miles to make this happen with political turmoil between two rural towns which would cause a maze of problems which would prove unproductive to both. If we as rural people, who could actually fly to Florida without a major "international airport" would be so fortunate. I've been on the "puddle jumpers' to Boston where the passengers can literally talk to the pilot and watch him eat lunch while remoting and even though it was feasible it's different watching Amish buggies trekking along instead of floating clouds! Let's just make it happen and pave the way that works constructively to the powers to be
7/21/2014 10:35 PM
Massena has become a dump. Why spend money on that field, when Ogdensburg's field is closer to high density population centers in Canada that might be interested in flying from the US (for lower fares). I believe Ogdensburg is also more centrally located to the main St. Lawrence Co. markets that would want access to larger hubs.
7/21/2014 9:22 PM
All of the flight providers current and past have bellied up to the federal money through to the tune of about 50% of the airfare per seat regardless if it is occupied or not. Is it not interesting that the "Conservatives" who prefer to shrink the portion of the federal largess which assists the downtrodden until it is small enough to drown in a "bathtub", feel the opposite about the portion of the federal largess which funnels $billion upon $billion into the pockets of corporate and business owners.
7/21/2014 8:49 PM
Both would be a waste of money.
7/21/2014 8:23 PM
Who is paying for this boondoggle? The taxpayers I assume? We can’t get commercial props to fly here, maybe Canadian Geese?
7/21/2014 7:51 PM
OBPA has enough to worry about maintaining the upkeep of the International Bridge let alone expanding the airport. They need to get rid of their incompetent bridge maintenance supervisor first. Hire some who will give them a 40 hour week. Take a look at the board and their hiring process.
7/21/2014 6:27 PM
Waste of money!
7/21/2014 6:17 PM
There should be an answer one or the other.
7/21/2014 5:04 PM
There's no sense spending that kind of money twice in this county. One airport built to handle larger jets is plenty. Given the state of the border crossing in Massena and Cornwall, it would be a waste of money anyhow.
7/21/2014 4:09 PM
Massena should have done this years ago.
7/21/2014 3:41 PM
Massena is at the extreme end of the county, with virtually no industry. Ogdensburg is much more centrally located for the tourist areas and the colleges. If not there put it outside of canton, the true center of the county.
7/21/2014 3:36 PM
Wouldn't it be great if we had increased service to the North Country? I support both, although it seems more prudent to only expend the money on one.
7/21/2014 2:56 PM
Ogdensburg should be the regional airport. The 170 seat Airbus 320 may be too ambitious though, a smaller regional jet may work.
7/21/2014 2:29 PM
If man were meant to fly we would have wings instead of arms or propellers out our butts.
7/21/2014 2:15 PM
Who wouldn't be in favor of this? The question is how does it get paid for.
7/21/2014 2:07 PM
One should be sufficient. Gray is just desperate for any sort of money to come into his dead town.
7/21/2014 12:45 PM
Absolutely, closer than driving to Plattsburgh.
7/21/2014 12:39 PM
What a huge mistake.
7/21/2014 12:19 PM
By all means, let's get some jets in the area to cut down on traveling all the way to Syracuse for any long distance flights.
7/21/2014 12:01 PM
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me whether Ogdensburg or Massena gets an expanded runway -- either one would be good. But it doesn't seem like we need two! Since the Ogdensburg option seems more feasible to happen in the near future, I believe that would be the best option to pursue!
7/21/2014 11:00 AM
The Burg already has the Schumer in their pocket. Massena needs to get over it.
7/21/2014 10:50 AM
Massena. Much better location, and, would not require the changing of a major State Highway. Besides, the OBPA, in my opinion, is not a good steward of any operation. If it were not for the Vermont Rail System operating their railroad, that entity would be out of business. The OBPA should only be involved in the operation of the port and bridge...nothing else.
7/21/2014 10:44 AM
As nice as it would be to fly out of these places, I think the cost would be way too much. Well, perhaps it is only for the wealthy?
7/21/2014 10:02 AM
Quit wasting taxpayer dollars
7/21/2014 9:51 AM
The question is not whether people would "support" this. Who wouldn't, and why? It's about who would pay for it and how important it is.
7/21/2014 9:22 AM