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A Potsdam Central School bus driver concerned with an uptick in vehicles passing stopped school buses helped raise enough money to buy cameras for each bus. Chambers said drivers reported to her that they are seeing more and more vehicles illegally pass stopped buses when bussing students. They noted there were several repeat offender vehicles and that obtaining a license plate number was difficult. For more, visit

Have you witnessed a vehicle illegally passing a stopped school bus?

50.4% -- No

49.6% -- Yes

Total Responses: 226

Comments: 73

Here are your comments:

If someone passes a stopped school bus then they should be charged with attempted man slaughtered. They could easily kill an innocent child.

June 19 7:36 a.m.

Usually the driver is approaching the bus from the front and tries to beat the flashing lights telling it to stop.

June 18 9:12 p.m.

There is no excuse for passing a stopped school bus!

June 18 7:15 p.m.

Too many traffic infractions going on today: speedy, failing to stay in driving lane, tailgating, road rage, cell phone use, texting. But don't tell a young person that their driving skills need to be better. Why not reinstate driver's education at every school and make it a mandatory graduation requirement?

June 18 4:02 p.m.

School taxes in Potsdam should be increased by about 30-40 percent to get cameras for every bus. And I don't wanna hear all the belly aching about how much you pay in taxes. Tough.

June 18 9:52 a.m.

Yes. More than a few times I have seen drivers zip past a stopped bus with its lights flashing. Hooray for cameras. A few tickets may save a life or two.

June 17 11:24 p.m.

I have come to feel unsafe even driving on the roads now days. Haven't seen car go by school bus with lights on, but can't believe how fast cars go. Where are the cops? Usually sitting by the 30-mile-per-hour signs to catch these people going a bit over 30. See this constantly!!!

June 17 6:49 p.m.

Well done Sean!

June 17 5:40 p.m.

Sad they have to do this. Just don't think it will help. Having a bar that swings out or down like at a railroad crossing might work better by blocking the lane. Also, lower tech with less issues.

June 17 3:15 p.m.

Increase the points on license, might help deter and make people think twice.

June 17 2:48 p.m.

I wonder how distracted those drivers are to pass a stopped school bus? Seems pretty simple, the bus stops, lights are flashing, the stop sign pops out. You stop your car.

June 17 7:31 a.m.

Pull their drivers license for a week!

June 17 7:25 a.m.

Fines should be $1000 and points on license, the cameras will be undisputed proof. Kudos to the caring bus drivers. Schools should have provided them without fund raising.

June 16 8:22 p.m.

I am guilty of doing it one time. There was two lanes on both sides by Price Chopper in Potsdam. Sadly, I did not notice the bus with it's red lights and stop sign until I drove by. I was looking to get into the lane to go toward Norwood before my lane ended the bus was coming from the opposite direction letting off kids at the price chopper shopping complex. I was in the wrong and would have been devastated had I hit someone. I should have been ticketed. I think the bus drivers are going above and beyond. I respect them for what they do. Thank you for looking out for the kids! I pay much more attention since that day. I couldn't imagine the frustration of putting up with repeat offenders.

June 16 2:39 p.m.

This is such an over-hyped feel good story.

June 16 10:36 a.m.

Though plenty of ridiculous and distracted driving behaviors. It's just not worth risking harming yourself or others to "get ahead" because we're really talking a matter of a few minutes here. I know we live in a fast paced world, but your life and my life are worth more than the few minutes saved by being careless. I always try to remember that a vehicle can quickly and easily become a terrible weapon. You want to race, find a track. Use those few minutes to relax and enjoy life!

June 16 9:34 a.m.

Penalties should be harsh for this. The potential for harm to a child is tremendous, and totally unnecessary. This is our future generation we're talking about!

June 16 7:42 a.m.

It's amazing how oblivious people are in their cars these days... I have been operating emergency vehicles for over twenty years, and NO JOKE can't count how many times in the last few years, the number of people that don't even notice the 40-ton Christmas tree, making an unbelievable racket behind them.

June 16 12:50 a.m.

I have no problem with it being punishable by a year-long loss of license on first offense, life-long ban on second offense.

June 15 9:27 p.m.

So this is why the bus drivers are intentionally leaving their yellow lights off, slowing down, waiting for vehicles to approach, flicking out the stop sign and turning on the red lights, then blowing their horn like it is my fault. They needed more incidents so they could get cameras. I believe this is a great tool to enforce laws, but drivers need to do their part too.

June 15 3:24 p.m.

Good to cut down illegal passing busses.

June 15 12:20 p.m.

I think the cameras are a good idea. I live on a back road and have an autistic son who is a preschooler and rides a bus. He often attempts to dart into the road when we try to put him on the bus, and the thought of someone flying by the bus and possibly hitting him absolutely sickens me.

June 15 11:17 a.m.

Repeat offenders needed to be put into jail and never have a license again. These idiots don't care about anyone else’s safety.

June 15 6:21 a.m.

However it was the bus drivers fault. I saw the semi truck coming, school bus driver saw the semi coming yet pulled out in front of him then immediately put on his yellow then red lights. Semi had no choice but to swerve into my lane to avoid rear-ending bus full of kids and I had to take the ditch. Luckily I was in a 4×4 so no damage to my vehicle. I got the bus number and called school. Did no good because the same driver is still driving and still not waiting for oncoming traffic at that same intersection. So if and when a wreck happens, I will be happy to testify against driver, school and first student.

June 15 5:53 a.m.

This is good because there is nothing as important as our children. That said, how about some of these bus drivers who are speeding as they drive the country roads?

June 14 12:56 p.m.

Considering the risk to children involved in passing a stopped school bus, those who do so should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

June 14 11:59 a.m.

As a school bus driver, I have had my red lights ran many times. If you have followed the New York Association for Pupil Transportation surveys in regards to red light running you will see that it is state-wide. I urge people to contact their legislators and ask them to support stop arm camera legislation. Remember this could be your child or grandchild crossing the road when the lights are ran. Please drive safely and responsible.

June 14 11:46 a.m.

The penalty should be loss of license forever.

June 14 11:43 a.m.

It happens frequently, especially during the morning rush hour. How could a person live with themselves if they killed a child just to get to work a few minutes earlier? How tragic!

June 14 11:39 a.m.

I have traveled SLC for the last 40 years as a sales rep. Monday-Friday, 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. and have never witnessed illegally passing.

June 14 9:26 a.m.

No, but then I'm retired and not on the roads very often when buses are doing their routes. I think cameras should be inside the bus too, the bus driver has too much to be aware of.

June 14 8:57 a.m.

At times when a vehicle passes a school bus the blame is not totally on the car. The school bus drivers have a responsibility to the kids to make sure the oncoming car is stopping before the child gets off the bus. It's a two-way street, it's not always the car.

June 14 7:27 a.m.

I believe this is just another case of drivers disregarding the vehicle laws. I don't know where they learned to drive or how they got their attitude but rage, speeding, failure to stop for buses or crosswalks is increasing. If you pull an RV you constantly have to be aware of illegal passes and vehicles pulling out in front of you. No one wants to be behind a bus or camper or even a tractor trailer these days.

June 14 4:31 a.m.

They need to get a very large fine and they should have cameras.

June 13 11:45 p.m.

I haven't witnessed it, but I've heard a lot about it this year. Something NEEDS to be done to stop it.

June 13 9:27 p.m.

I have not, but I think this is a great idea.

June 13 7:50 p.m.

Unfortunately, those that are caught and ticketed are usually allowed to plea to a lesser charge and fewer points on their driving record.

June 13 7:43 p.m.

I hope the offenders name is published when she receives a ticket! There should be a wall of shame somewhere to post their picture on! Passing a stopped school bus and endangering the life of a little one is serious business! Please take caution!

June 13 3:39 p.m.

If it wasn't so costly, all schools should invest in having cameras on buses. Especially on a main street in town where traffic is congested and you have a little young one it could be very dangerous. If it was myself, I would be walking my child to and from if it came down to the point of having to cross the road. Teaching the child road safety is also important because you can't always rely on drivers to follow the rules of the road and the rules of the stop signs on busses.

June 13 12:32 p.m.

Thank you Sean for organizing this. You are always looking out for the best interests of the kids. This is a fine example of what can be accomplished when we act locally.

June 13 10:19 a.m.

I think this should be taking seriously. Just make the fine so crazy it will stop people from doing it. Something like a $5,000 fine and 5 points on their license. I think they would think twice before they do it.

June 13 9:05 a.m.

No, I haven't and am always appalled when I hear of such an incident. I think cameras are a wonderful idea. Children should always be safe entering and exiting their busses -- if people are in such a hurry, they should leave earlier to get wherever it is they are going. Most times drivers are very courteous and let cars pass once children are safely inside.

June 13 8:41 a.m.

Those caught on camera should lose their license permanently and be prosecuted for attempted murder or manslaughter. No jury is going to acquit someone who knowingly decides their time is more important than a child's life. This is a case even Rain might be able to win.

June 13 8:15 a.m.

Put the drivers that pass the busses in jail!

June 13 7:46 a.m.

They don't even look for where the kids are. They just care about them selves. Sad!

June 12 10:26 p.m.

Those who are caught illegally passing a bus should lose their license for 6 months. This should be mandatory, no excuses.

June 12 9:16 p.m.

No but there are some crazy drivers out there.

June 12 8:52 p.m.

Should lose their license.

June 12 5:25 p.m.

Never witnessed, drive about 70,000 miles per year.

June 12 4:17 p.m.

I think the cameras are a good idea.

June 12 2:48 p.m.

This happens a lot especially on side streets and parking lots.

June 12 2:02 p.m.

But they should be prosecuted.

June 12 1:11 p.m.

It’s all talk until a child is injured or killed.

June 12 1:03 p.m.

Publish their photos so we can see what they are really doing instead of watching traffic.

June 12 12:26 p.m.

Couldn't get the license plate though because I was stopped for the school bus. Have seen several near misses. Disgusting ignorance.

June 12 12:19 p.m.

It happens and is a very stupid thing to do. When caught, take away their license.

June 12 11:57 a.m.

Turned in the plate number to law enforcement. In my opinion, much tougher penalties should be imposed. Also, and this is legal, the vehicle used in commission of the crime should be immediately impounded and held as evidence till the case is settled. Let the stupid SOB walk to where they are going! Maybe then they will learn the lesson!

June 12 11:29 a.m.

But good on the bus driver.

June 12 11:24 a.m.

Passing a stopped bus or speeding in a school zone needs to have stronger consequences!

June 12 10:11 a.m.

It's a great idea, our children need to be safe, thank you Potsdam school bus driver. It's great to know you care.

June 12 9:52 a.m.

It is wrong to pass a bus with its lights flashing, not to mention illegal. It is also wrong how long it takes to get the kids off the bus and across the street. Come on America, wake up to what's right!

June 12 9:41 a.m.

I think all buses should have cameras. They have them on the inside why not on the outside. But the drivers shouldn't have to pay for them.

June 12 9:35 a.m.

I think some think that if it's a double lane both ways that if they aren't behind the bus they can still go in their own lane. Bus cameras are an excellent idea. I have to say I would never want to drive bus with all the responsibility and rude kids. It takes a special person. God bless the bus drivers and monitors. My kids just love the drivers. They are people they can actually talk and relate to. I want to thank every driver, monitor and mechanic for transporting my kids as safe as possible.

June 12 9:28 a.m.

It's a catch 22. There's no need for double bus runs, the big kids can look after the smaller ones. Less runs, the less chance of this happening. Bus drivers need to be more courteous towards drivers, pull over and let a long line of cars go by, this will help decrease the chance of illegal passing. I've witnessed buses waiting 8-10 minutes for a kid to get to the bus, followed by super-sized welfare queen wearing tight sized 6 XL sweat pants screaming at the driver. This does not help the situation any when there's a long line of drivers trying to get to work. How often are the bus drivers drug tested? Seems there's always a bunch hanging around the bars.

June 12 9:23 a.m.

I think the cameras are a good thing and also act as a deterrent.

June 12 9:19 a.m.

This is a horrible thing -- idiot drivers who endanger kids because they are in a hurry or texting on their phone. I don't think the cameras help though. They never seem to catch anyone and the footage is never clear enough. Maybe we should have one of our many, many law enforcement agencies volunteer a car once a week to follow a few buses and write some tickets. Do that for a while and it would stop.

June 12 8:58 a.m.

Please. Everyone support this and fully prosecute before a child is killed or maimed.

June 12 8:14 a.m.

Some are due to bus driver error.

June 12 7:58 a.m.

Idiots should automatically lose their license.

June 12 7:58 a.m.

Yes, the car came within feet of hitting a child. Then I have seen vehicles go around a bus when it was stopped with red lights on. What if that was your child!

June 12 7:53 a.m.

Never witnessed it, but I know it happens. Cameras are a great idea to catch offenders. Too bad all buses couldn't be equipped with cameras.

June 12 7:35 a.m.

Oh really? True. Mmhmm. Really. You don't say? My word. Ogdensburg to Gouverneur and back to Ogdensburg. Oh really. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

June 12 7:23 a.m.

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Mark Murray blew the Garrett Phillip's murder investigation worse than Falcons blew a 28-3 lead to the Patriots.

June 12 7:18 a.m.