THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
Do you believe the proposed wind power farms for the Hopkinton and Parishville townships would change the character of the area?
Results will be posted Jan. 23.
LAST WEEK'S QUESTION:
Superintendents at Potsdam and Canton Central are praising Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s proposal to give free SUNY tuition to middle class families, but are concerned about how the governor plans to pay for it. The plan would apply to SUNY Canton and Potsdam colleges. According to Cuomo the new initiative will be phased in over three years, beginning for New Yorkers making up to $100,000 annually in the fall of 2017, increasing to $110,000 in 2018, and reaching $125,000 in 2019.
Do you support free tuition at SUNY schools?
57.5% -- No
21.4% -- It depends on details
21.2% -- Yes
Total Responses: 548
Here are your comments:
I also support free tuition at Clarkson University which is extremely overpriced.
1/16/2017 6:52 a.m.
Tuition is not room and board and those cost items, so it is not like college all of a sudden is now free if this goes through.
1/16/2017 6:37 a.m.
Guess who will pay! If I had enough money to pay for tuition it would have been for my own kids, as it is they’re bogged down for the next 15 years with student loans, why is it fair that they have to pay. Maybe Cuomo can figure out how to forgive those loans.
1/16/2017 5:48 a.m.
NO ITS A REELECTION MOVE.
1/16/2017 5:17 a.m.
Who will pay for this? We will pay thru our taxes. Just another unfunded mandate!
1/16/2017 4:58 a.m.
Middle class families need a break! However, what about those of us who helped our kids and owe $20-40,000?
1/16/2017 3:27 a.m.
Well, there is no free lunch, and I doubt there is "free tuition" to SUNY schools. Where exactly will the money for tuition come from? This sounds like "donation free" advertising for Governor Cuomo to begin his campaign for the 2020 presidential election. Goodbye and good riddance, candidate Cuomo.
1/16/2017 1:24 a.m.
I work for a living. NY state already rapes the working people of this state. I'm out of this hole this summer and taking my tax money with me.
1/16/2017 12:24 a.m.
Only for lower income families. Not those families making 100,000. Maybe 60,000 household income as a cut off.
1/15/2017 10:27 p.m.
If they pay for those over-burdened from tuition, for the parents and college goers, from the past first. Nothing like rubbing salt into open wounds.
1/15/2017 6:49 p.m.
Free college is a great idea, and I would support it if the taxes I can just afford to pay now didn’t go up. Also, education is great if the job opportunities are there. You also have to be mindful of the waste that will be involved, both money and time, on kids that just go to party, be career students or don’t know what they want so they waste years bouncing around trying to figure it out. Before the money is just handed out, there have to be regulations and rules to follow.
1/15/2017 5:53 p.m.
Like everything in government, wonderful idea, but where is the money coming from? How about tax payer relief instead?
1/15/2017 5:11 p.m.
Who's going to pay for it!??? Not the taxpayer!!!!
1/15/2017 4:35 p.m.
Yes, but only if they can maintain a 3.0 or above.
1/15/2017 2:37 p.m.
Free tuition only for students committing to volunteering X amount of hours per semester.
1/15/2017 2:03 p.m.
This governor is a joke, what an arbitrary number. Cuomo has to go.
1/15/2017 1:45 p.m.
It sounds like a good concept however the money has to come from somewhere. I hope there is a provision that a certain GPA be maintained or the student must pay back the state, especially if he/she is dismissed due to academic grades.
1/15/2017 1:40 p.m.
I assume it must have been a slow day in the Albany "think tank" to come up with this political ringer, especially from Ivy school financial scholars, but in comparison, I'd expect this concept more out of the Duck Dynasty clan. I wonder how the Albany bean-counters would suggest being able to swing the monies, but then again they always have the taxpayers shoulders, of course labeled under a different name so......! Why is it the Shakespearean cliché to make this happen..... "let them eat cake" comes to mind. The government lottery as historians know, was initiated in the mid 1960's for the main focus on Education but that was smoke-screened to a small percentile as the years progressed. Funny how being "mislabeled" Senior Citizens by society we earned the privileges to say "we've been there done that" but isn't it so ironic that all the government financial agencies still have the" same cast, just different characters."
1/15/2017 12:54 p.m.
Yes, I support free tuition at all public universities. There is a way to do it. Sen. Bernie Sanders has proposed making public colleges and universities tuition-free, a plan that would cost about $75 billion a year, paid for by imposing a tax on Wall Street speculators that would generate about $300 billion in revenue. This plan would more than pay for itself. We would have an educated population. There would be fewer people depending on government program to survive. A well-educated population would also most likely make wiser decisions in every aspect of life. If everyone had a college education, crime rates would also most likely decrease. Free public college education is a win-win for everyone!
1/15/2017 12:25 p.m.
I would rather see my tax dollars go to giving our youth free education than having my tax dollars giving our inmates in prison a free education.
1/15/2017 12:05 p.m.
Why just these two colleges. How much are we as not NYC residents going to have to pay to educate the masses of NYC residents. Ask yourself people, what part of NYS will benefit the most. I a.m. sure that it won't be north of the "CITY."
1/15/2017 11:51 a.m.
About time something was done for the middleclass.
1/15/2017 11:20 a.m.
It would be nice or maybe a cut in how much it cost so the ones who use it remember they had to work to get it, it was not just handed to them. But the main thing is HOW will it be paid for, because as I see it the taxpayers have enough on their shoulders now, what with roads, buildings asking for money to be repaired, things you may not even know. What of the EMT's who need updated equipment to make calls with. There are a lot of things that need to be taken care of. I would like to know just how many kids in college now worked to have something to pay on their semester or hoped to get a grant or whatever. I think the Governor should put an idea together then put it to a real vote at the poles so we can see just how he plans on doing this and we get to see who will and will not be able to use it.
1/15/2017 10:41 a.m.
I had went to college tuition free. If I hadn't had this incentive I probably wouldn't have become a teacher....probably would have continued to wait on table in my home town!
1/15/2017 10:12 a.m.
What if they levied a tax and nobody paid it.
1/15/2017 9:47 a.m.
Will this mean, the collages will provide this as a free service no money exchange at all there is cost to everything. This is another smoke screen!!! If the students don't have job at the end what's the point just more waste of time and we the people's money will pay the bill. Superintendents want you to think that we can put anyone in collage !!!!!!!!!!!!
1/15/2017 9:45 a.m.
I had to pay for mine and they should have to do the sa.m.e. They won't appreciate it if it is handed to them. As a taxpayer, I should not have to have my taxes increased to cover this for future generations.
1/15/2017 9:40 a.m.
This is an investment in our future. Education of the populace is so important. The lack of education in this country is one of the reasons we have Trump for the next four years. Or until he is impeached on corruption charges.
1/15/2017 8:47 a.m.
Cost of tuition for college is high, but maintaining a good grade average should be a requirement for free tuition.
1/15/2017 8:44 a.m.
More welfare. Who is going to pay for this stupidity?
1/15/2017 8:41 a.m.
No. Paying for someone's student loans when we struggle to pay for my wife's does not seem right.
1/15/2017 8:33 a.m.
Education is not a guarantee, or a God given right. It must be earned. Allow students to take courses only in their major. Stop the well-rounded education. Foreigners are taking away our jobs because they take for example 130+ credit hours (a bachelors degree) in computer courses. They also start their salary at $100,000 as a computer systems analyst. Our students take 30+ hours in computer courses and have the same starting salary for Microsoft corporation at $65,000. Allow specialization in a field. A degree is not for everyone. There are many fields out there where you can make more money than someone with a university degree. Power lineman, nurse with a associate’s degree, welder. Skip college and learn a trade, if its not for you go to college, you will do better academically because you will realize that the education is needed and the partying is not!!!!
1/15/2017 8:11 a.m.
1/15/2017 7:42 a.m.
How many will start college then quit costing tax payers more money.
1/15/2017 5:46 a.m.
No. As it was, my taxes went up due to, what was forewarned to be, a raise in minimum wages. Now the taxes will go up to pay for someone else's education. The poor and middle class will be paying for this, not the 1% billionaires. I would rather see college loans already out there forgiven. If Cuomo wants to help pay for tuition, pay for what is already tied up in loans so people can breathe and live.
1/15/2017 4:48 a.m.
How will this be paid for? And what about those of us who saved and paid our own way? Will there be a minimum gpa, a total time limit or any restrictions put on this free money??
1/14/2017 9:48 p.m.
I pay for K-12 and its failing why should I have to pay for this. Lets fix our schools first then worry about collage.
1/14/2017 6:36 p.m.
Absolutely wasteful! This encourages students who may not need college level education to waste taxpayer money. Lets see the numbers on how many publicly funded students drop out without completing a program. This is a vote buying ploy.
1/14/2017 5:14 p.m.
Nothing is free we need to stop referring to all of this government handouts as free. We the taxpayers pay for them.
1/14/2017 4:43 p.m.
Where do you think free college will come from? Who do you think will pay for it? It will be on the backs of the middle class workers just like the social service system is!!!! The $$$$ has to come from somewhere.
1/14/2017 12:34 p.m.
“Free” tuition will promote higher college costs as do grants, low interest loans, scholarships, etc. Stop this foolishness to force these “showplaces” to lower their costs and become places of higher education as they should be.
1/14/2017 11:57 a.m.
So help me with this scenario please! If this endorsed free college token pass goes through, does this mean my wife and I can go to our bank and inform them that the college loans that had to be collateralized by our mortgage, for our 2 kids school loans, should be forgiven? I have one job and my wife has 2 which would be so good to our hmmm.... cast system "middle-class income." Something tells me that the banking institutions would not find that as a loop-hole and we would be shown the door !!
1/14/2017 10:25 a.m.
Drug dealers will be going to school to sell and get a free degree.
1/14/2017 9:35 a.m.
Nothing is "Free!” When the other students' tuition is raised and they start going to good schools instead, my taxes will get raised to support another failed program that has to be made to look good for political reasons.
1/14/2017 9:05 a.m.
The money has to come from somewhere, the "rich" are already paying the lion's share of taxes, so it will have to come out of your pocket. There is no such thing as a "free lunch" someone has to pay for it.
1/14/2017 8:48 a.m.
Taxpayers already are overburdened by being forced to pay taxes that are misused by our governments, locally, statewide and federally. Our governments need to start at the top being more fiscally responsible and stop making the taxpayers pay the "entitlements" of the government!!! Governor Cuomo was elected to do a job so maybe he should open his eyes and get his head out of somewhere! He and so many others in their positions of power are abusing their positions only to benefit themselves at the expense of others. Shame on them!
1/14/2017 6:35 a.m.
Financial aid should be made more for all involved, including TAP. Maybe fix those guidelines first. TINSTAFL...there is no such thing as a grew lunch. Someone has to pay. What happens if someone uses this and doesn't finish essentially taking from someone else?
1/14/2017 5:46 a.m.
People appreciate things more and work harder if they have some investment into something. We already have too many immature, unprepared, and unmotivated students who can't hack it and they get taxpayer funded financial aid. Make students work for some sort of contribution to their education!
1/14/2017 12:39 a.m.
I a.m. a college graduate. To pay for my education I took out loans, which I a.m. paying back. I also had more than one part-time job at a time while attending college. Now, the Governor wants to offer free college on the taxpayers' dime. Does he know I have student loans to pay??? I could understand incentives such as a student discount your sophomore year if you maintained a certain grade point average by the end of your freshman year, and such for each additional year, but free!!! As it is now, many academic departments within SUNY must be working with a smaller than ever annual budget due to decreasing enrollment. If the tuition is taken away, the annual budget will plummet and what will that do to the quality of the education that students in SUNY colleges receive? What is that old adage... "you get what you pay for." Also, are instructors going to volunteer to teach classes, and not get paid. What will happen to the quality of instructors when SUNY cannot compete with private colleges who offer much better hiring packages for staff? Through simple logic one can see a very dangerous domino effect in the making. Please Google the August 2016 issue of Consumer Report magazine. It shows how attending college actually ruined some grads' lives. I don't claim to know the answer, and obviously what has been happening isn't working. However, the answer is definitely not FREE COLLEGE!!!!
1/13/2017 9:11 p.m.
I believe this is great. I saw on 7 News someone said this is more of their tax dollars going to freeloaders. Give everyone a chance, maybe they didn't have everything handed to them. Maybe more will have a chance at a good life with a good job.
1/13/2017 6:31 p.m.
Plenty of people pay loans for their education they have already received...what about them?
1/13/2017 5:09 p.m.
The only people this is going to benefit is the slum from the big cities like New York. They cannot track how the students pay for things. This is just another way for the welfare to live off the taxpayer. This is NOT good for the middle class. This is only a way for the city trash to live off the tax payer. No No NO!!!!!!!
1/13/2017 4:10 p.m.
Nothing is free from the government. It all comes from the taxpayer.
1/13/2017 4:01 p.m.
I don't care what anyone says, nothing is free, someone will be picking up the tab and most likely it will be the taxpayers.
1/13/2017 2:23 p.m.
Pretty unfair to those of us who just graduated a year ago and are swimming in debt and not receiving any help. I'm not totally opposed to the idea despite my extreme jealousy of being born a little bit too early to be able to start life debt free but, can support it if we get real details on where the money is coming from and if there are stipulations such as a minimum GPA.
1/13/2017 2:22 p.m.
The best way to better society is to invest in our children.
1/13/2017 1:38 p.m.
There should be a GPA requirement to keep the free tuition. 1/13/2017 1:15 p.m.
Don't be fooled by the smoke and mirrors it will raise taxes.
1/13/2017 12:05 p.m.
I pay enough TAX. If the State has all this extra $$?? Why don't they provide funding for the mandates they already require local tax payers to fund? Just never ends!!
1/13/2017 11:22 a.m.
We had to work two jobs and struggle to put our two kids through college. They have very good jobs and they are very grateful. Kids have it too easy today. Everything is given to them. Go out and work. Many kids have done that.
1/13/2017 11:21 a.m.
Who is going to cover the costs? We can't afford to pay for it, wake up!
1/13/2017 11:06 a.m.
It never ceases to amaze me how common sense in politics does not always prevail. For one instance, might the governing bodies inform the voters why a "middle-class income family of $100,000" be candidates for a "free college pass" when a "low-income family" would not even be eligible for this "ride free grant?” In brief scenario, I worked two jobs for many years and my wife also took in daycare to put my son through Potsdam State and not only do I still have student loans on him, but he also has school loans that he has responsibilities for; and by rank in file, we weren't ever classified in the term a “middle class-white fence" family! In regards to the mentioned support applause from the school superintendents would that really be "career-wise" for them not to endorse this proposal? I really tried to look at this from all angles but unfortunately I really can't unravel this logic !
1/13/2017 10:30 a.m.
What about all the former students and parents that had to pay and are still paying for their educations.
1/13/2017 10:27 a.m.
And lower private school costs.
1/13/2017 10:08 a.m.
A bigger issue is the need to impeach The Tinkler in Chief before that sociopath ruins democracy.
1/13/2017 9:56 a.m.
Make them earn it. Nothing is free. These snowflake spoiled brats think that everything should be given to them. If you cant afford it, either don’t go to school or take out loans and pay it back later.
1/13/2017 9:52 a.m.
We are strapped enough for our local schools taxes.
1/13/2017 9:36 a.m.
Start with bringing jobs back. Get Trump to get Alcoa to build new plant that was ready to start construction in Massena, turn the Massena mall into small business incubator!!!! Off load the stores. There is so much wasted square footage. The infrastructure for small businesses in the mall would be perfect for startups. Cheap power,parking, and food court. If that doesn't work, bring in large data processing company that holds large computer services. We have cheap power!!! Transporting goods is our problem here. Why not think outside the box and bring in a massive computer company, Google, Yahoo. Yahoo has a plant in Buffalo. So this is somthing thats not out of reach. There services are over the web. Not much transportation needed. But would benefit from low cost power. Here's what we have for local assets. Clarkson engineers SUNY Canton technology technicians St. Lawrence and SUNY Potsdam human resources. Kids need jobs in NY. We can't give them free college and get nothing in return. They need to stay and help be a NYS tax payer. It's that simple. Hope one day somebody can take these ideas and make MASSENA and the North Country great again. It's that easy, pressure the failing democratic party to actually come back and prove they can make jobs to. ALCOA project was so close to start, they even had the golden shovel photo op dig. Prints are done, engineering was done. All we need is a politician with enough energy to get it back on line!!!! Rgs
1/13/2017 9:29 a.m.
Civilized countries consider education and health care to be rights of citizenship, not profit centers.
1/13/2017 6:43 a.m.
It will take away the student loan burden which our kids are strapped with today By the way how about helping our kids with student loan debt. They went to SUNY colleges and our income wasn't $100,000.
1/13/2017 5:07 a.m.
I had to find a way to save and send my kid to college without such state-sponsored free tuition. I also paid hefty NYS taxes across my kid's entire life, plus 10 years prior. I will leave NYS if new initiatives like these trigger even higher taxes. Mr. Cuomo is simply not being fair to all the taxpayers who properly prioritized and executed savings plans across many years to be able to afford sending their kid to college.
1/13/2017 12:59 a.m.
Where is the money coming from?
1/13/2017 12:17 a.m.
You can buy a new house or car with a lower interest rate than student loans! Why not have no-interest student loans? Also students need to be held accountable, so make sure all benefits require a C or better class grade with classroom attendance mandatory. Kinda like the working world!
1/12/2017 10:49 p.m.
Not enough details given. How will it be funded? Will the students be held to an academic standard to keep it? Will there be a minimum residency requirement or will anyone be able to move to NY for just the length of a college career and leave again?
1/12/2017 9:16 p.m.
My husband and I saved our money, denied ourselves of "wants" and paid for our children's education. I fully support academic scholarships for deserving students, but free just for the sake of free is ludicrous. College is not for everyone. Many young people should learn a trade instead; those positions will always exist. The student loan crisis would be greatly reduced if the government was not involved in the loan business; give it back to the banks and make the loans dischargeable in bankruptcy, that way the banks will think twice about loaning money for students to study in fields that have no hope of employment.
1/12/2017 8:05 p.m.
A better idea to make student loans interest free if they graduate. They need to learn that you have earn what you get.
1/12/2017 6:16 p.m.
This is insane.
1/12/2017 3:12 p.m.
If it brings more drug peddles from the city, then sure we need more jobs
1/12/2017 2:07 p.m.
No way, no more freebies. We are taxed enough as it is. You want something, WORK for it !
1/12/2017 2:07 p.m.
This is a terrible idea! Our taxes are already extremely high and this will compound that problem. $125k?!?! That has to be a vast majority of North Country families. All this will do is burden the taxpayer and flood the (already non-existant) job-market with highly-"educated" 22 year old CHILDREN. If anything, why not expand tuition assistance for trade-schools? At least there are jobs available for skilled labor (carpentry, construction, welding, electricians, linesman, auto-tech, etc). Education is incredibly overvalued. Some of the smartest people you'll ever meet never get a degree and some of the dumbest people you'll meet have obtained a master's degree. College is no longer a test to see if you're exceptional, it's a test to see if you can go through the motions and play the game. And for what it's worth, I just graduated St. Lawrence in 2014 with a double major in the Natural Sciences. I graduated with a very modest (under $20k) student loan debt and I enjoyed my time at school. Some might think my opinions to be sour grapes, but my only intention is to offer an honest opinion from a recent grad.
1/12/2017 1:54 p.m.
The tax payers will be responsible for yet another entitlement program!
1/12/2017 1:47 p.m.
Most of us who went to college, worked hard to pay off our loans, in this era of spoiled kids handed everything on silver platters, I can't imagine that a family income of $100,000 needs handout education. There is always a way for paying education, it's called work or grants. I for one don't need to have my taxes raised or cuts in other agencies for a education free ride. I worked full time and went to College to get a better education. Then I spent several years paying off loans. I was a newly single mom and though it was a tough time, but I made it work. NO FREE RIDES
1/12/2017 1:20 p.m.
Only for NYS residents
1/12/2017 1:07 p.m.
No, we have too many kids going to college for degrees that will never get them a job. Great idea for students that excel academically, but not just hand it out to everyone. And it's not "free"... someone (i.e.: taxpayers) will be paying for it.
1/12/2017 12:39 p.m.
AS IT'S not free
1/12/2017 12:06 p.m.
No, rather to have reduced tuition based on family income.
1/12/2017 12:02 p.m.
There are too many people now getting everything free. I really would like to retire someday!!
1/12/2017 11:56 a.m.
What about the students who already have debt from college?
1/12/2017 11:54 a.m.
Absolutely not! First we know how it will be paid for... the taxpayers. Second, two of our sons went to SUNY colleges, one in Potsdam and one in Canyon. No one helped them pay their tuition... they were both straddled with huge financial aid loans. You'll just get more kids from the city up here dealing drugs while getting a free ride!
1/12/2017 10:33 a.m.
NY taxes are already too high! What is Cuomo thinking? Last one out of NY turn off the lights!
1/12/2017 8:03 a.m.
How will all the overhead to operate a college be done?
1/12/2017 7:33 a.m.
We're already taxed to death. There are plenty of high paying jobs that don't require college, if one is motivated and has great job seeking skills, on top of career counseling! Nothing good comes from freebies.
1/12/2017 7:12 a.m.
It should have been done years ago
1/12/2017 7:11 a.m.
The govr already takes too much of my money. People wanting to go to college should pay their own way.
1/12/2017 6:38 a.m.
What about help to pay off student loans already in place?
1/12/2017 6:19 a.m.
I don't support it we pay to much taxes now. What does this governor want out of the people now? We'll have to move out of this state. I paid for my kids college let them do the same. The parents need to plan better for their kids. Maybe the families need to stay out of bar rooms and buying drugs would help. We'll have kids from other states moving here to get free college. This governor need to go back and get educated better. He's not looking out for the people that makes just enough to get along on. (Angry) it should be put on a ballot and voted on. Doesn't the people have any say any more?
1/12/2017 6:02 a.m.
If free tuition isn't offered, very soon, the only people able to afford the educations that lead to professional careers will be people who grew up in wealthy, privileged families. Think about it for a moment: do you really want all the counselors, social workers, clergy, professors, accountants, teachers etc. you deal with every day to have no idea what it's like to live in a working class family, or in a poor neighborhood? Free tuition will make it possible for people from a wider variety of backgrounds to pursue the career paths best suited to their goals and abilities; it's a winning scenario for all of us.
1/11/2017 8:09 p.m.
Parents with income of $100K? While they live in a big 4-bedroom house and a summer cottage, we the tax payers have to now pay for their kids education. Cuomo just like his Daddy who broke NY State!
1/11/2017 7:27 p.m.
And, how does this get paid for by a state that already doesn't meet it's obligations to K-12 schools? I would be for it if the student first served 2 years in the military or another legitimate public service area. It must be merit based, not a handout!
1/11/2017 6:36 p.m.
Who's paying for this. New Yorkers are broke now everyone is leaving.
1/11/2017 6:03 p.m.
Because it will use TAX dollars. NO MORE TAXES!
1/11/2017 5:44 p.m.
Too bad it wasn't done years ago....
1/11/2017 5:15 p.m.
The devil is always in the details. Since nothing is free, who is paying for it?
1/11/2017 5:08 p.m.
An educated population capable of critical thinking is an asset to society.
1/11/2017 3:46 p.m.
Until we have free college across the board, I think it makes more sense to create more relief on the far end — after students graduate. If some people are going to pay for school and others are not, it makes more sense to determine this after the fact, when students do (or do not) get good jobs. Let those who can afford to pay back their education do so, and give more relief to those that cannot. Improve existing income based repayment plans, and allow greater forgiveness — including making that "forgiveness" tax free.
1/11/2017 3:24 p.m.
Where was that when I went to SUNY school? Why do I want to pay for somebody else when I will struggle to send my own child. Somebody needs to tell our govenor socialism does not work. I can barely afford my school taxes talk about tuition for somebody. Don't worry it will get shoved down our throats just like other legislation. The faster we can lose bleeding heart liberals and NYC, the quicker the rest of the state with straighten out. Look how many people leave now, see how many leave soon. As far as superintendents go, I would love to make that kind of money on the taxpayers back.
1/11/2017 3:21 p.m.
This is just one more giveaway of taxpayer money from yet another left leaning liberal Democrat. Nothing is free, somebody somewhere is paying for it unless there's a money tree in Albany that we're unaware of. Oh wait, it's not a money tree, it's just more taxpayer dollars, and I stress taxpayer dollars. We already have too who spend their lives with their hands out, let's stop the bleeding...we need less unfunded mandates, not more!!
1/11/2017 2:43 p.m.
Fund public education first.
1/11/2017 2:05 p.m.
I had to pay for my degree 10 years ago plus work full time and go to school, as you all know who will be paying for it???? Us as tax payers!!!!!!!!
1/11/2017 2:02 p.m.
I borrowed, worked and paid for mine and graduated and became gainfully employed. Granting free tuition is just promoting a welfare state. A prospective should work and save or join the military to help pay tuition.
1/11/2017 1:35 p.m.
Nothing is free If you want something then pay for it yourself.
1/11/2017 1:13 p.m.
New York's taxes are already among the highest in the country. Whether or not the governor intends to pay for this through direct taxes there can be no doubt that the burden will be born by tax payers. Those with children may support the plan but retirees cannot afford to pay for another generation's college education after paying for their own and their children's. The plan also will attract new low income residents who will move to the state to qualify for free college, further adding to the tax burden.
1/11/2017 1:11 p.m.
Grades should play a role in getting in and staying in.
1/11/2017 12:39 p.m.
I have earned 3 college degrees from SUNY schools and I paid for them all by myself. These snowflakes need to throw away their safe spaces and safety pins and learn how the real world works. My tax money should not go towards secondary education expenses of others. Where will the accountability be for free college? Squandered money is all I see in this bill.
1/11/2017 12:31 p.m.
California tried doing that at one time, it did not work as planned.
1/11/2017 12:27 p.m.
It will just mean more taxes, something NY is famous for. Will this encourage more people to move out of this state?
1/11/2017 11:58 a.m.
It is a great idea in concept BUT we CANNOT afford this now!! Our state needs to be fixed first!
1/11/2017 11:48 a.m.
Again, here we go with the ultra-liberal/socialist agenda (and vote-buying) schemes of Dictator, oops, I meant, Governor A. Cuomo. Who cares how it's paid for! Which other state-supported entity will suffer? How many more fees and surcharges, i.e., TAXES, will heaped upon the sa.m.e working middle class... Nothing is ever free when politicians make promises! Don't trust this man nor his promises no matter who else "praises" him!
1/11/2017 11:17 a.m.
This is something long overdue. This is an investment in our future that will strengthen our economy in the long term.
1/11/2017 9:17 a.m.
There is no such thing as a free lunch, who is going to pay for this?
1/11/2017 9:00 a.m.
Someone has to pay for all that free stuff! Guess who? The tax payer! All students should pay tuition but keep it within reason! Private schools like St Lawrence and Clarkson are charging way beyond reason even for the rich !!
1/11/2017 8:57 a.m.
There is no such thing as free. It won't be the rich paying for "free" tuition it will be us poor saps who have mortgages, car loans, student loans or young children. We work hard so more of our hard earned money can be taken away.
1/11/2017 8:56 a.m.
The Gov. clearly indicated the State cannot pay for indigent defense, consequently where will the funds come from for "free college"??? Nothing is free, nothing.... and if you cannot pay for a SUNY education making that salary something is definitly wrong... take out student loans like everyone else has had to!!!!!
1/11/2017 8:54 a.m.
No, It is one thing to help out with loans and financing, but why is college becoming a charity? Cuomo needs to go!
1/11/2017 8:49 a.m.
Like we need another tax burden here in NY... Wow when will this reign of tyranny end!!!!
1/11/2017 8:46 a.m.
Should students who parents make more take on the burden and still be faced with huge student loan debts? Who will pay? Will tuition increase for others????
1/11/2017 8:45 a.m.
On one aspect I agree with it for adults (25+) to get the free tuition if they meet the income guideline. This will allow veterans to attend as well as people who are more likely to be serious about the education. If for high school students I see this as a bad incentive since they are more likely to "party" with no consequences. Most it would be the first time away from their parents which will let the mice play as there is no cat to watch them. My other concern is how is this going to be paid for with NY having some of the highest taxes. Where is the funds coming from w/o raising taxes? Unless the state does some serious welfare/food stamp reform that actually requires work to be performed so we can reduce cost there or elsewhere I fear home owners and anyone that buys stuff will be gouged with taxes which will push businesses out of the area. I think also if you get a degree using this program you need to work in NY for 5-10 years so the state can get some benefit from the investment.
1/11/2017 8:32 a.m.
More school tax!!!
1/11/2017 8:18 a.m.
Who in SLC makes $100,000?????
1/11/2017 8:18 a.m.
Rather than provide free tuition for some, maybe we should just be looking at increasing state aid to all SUNY colleges or scholarship based tuition programs that take scholastic aptitude and drive rather than only fa.m.ily income into account when determining who receives tuition assistance from the state! This seems like another attempted "headline grab" by our Gov. to break into the national spotlight! But then again...what elected official who wanted to retain their position in the next election would ever step out against
1/11/2017 8:14 a.m.
No it means the tax payers pays. What about the debt that all the kids that ran up that are paying back now? Is this going to be wiped out? I hardly doubt it. Hears an idea how about lowering the salary of the president of the college they all make too much money, 6 figures to be exact
1/11/2017 6:45 a.m.
Your just adding a bigger burden on the tax payers. Its just a free trip for 4 years and giving them 4 years of parting,
1/11/2017 6:41 a.m.
More funding by the taxpayer. College is 4-5-6 year vacation before welfare.
1/11/2017 6:36 a.m.
Someone has to pay for it.
1/11/2017 6:32 a.m.
Where the hell is the money going to come from for this?
1/11/2017 6:20 a.m.
When you have no money invested, quite often it comes with no effort or caring investment. Basically if you go and drink for a whole semester you can walk away owing nothing. Too many kids are taking majors that are a complete waste of money. A 4-year degree in criminal justice is not needed to become a police officer and small guarantee you can ever get hired as a police officer. Too many kids I know who went for free because of income have no plan of doing anything related to what they majored in or only went until their marks ended their college career. Stupid use of tax dollars that should be used for tax relief for everyone.
1/11/2017 6:15 a.m.
One more government expansion plan is not needed and is unaffordable.
1/11/2017 4:32 a.m.
There is no such thing as "Free Tuition!" Someone has to foot the bill, and it is often the person who is already paying tuition for his own child's college expenses. I can go along with allowances for Academic scholarships because the student showed promise. Handing out free passes to students who are not motivated but might fill the classrooms with less than promising careers is uncalled for and wasteful.
1/11/2017 4:12 a.m.
Now that Gov Cuomo has raised the minimum wage to $15/hr, many of the working poor will not have Medicaid benefits and will be paying taxes. This money can be used to fund the free tuition.
1/11/2017 1:01 a.m.
Its not free money. Who is going to pay for it??
1/10/2017 11:17 p.m.
I didn't receive free tuition and a.m. working at a non-profit struggling to make every student loan payment on time for the past 4 years, having worked since 2 months after graduation from college. I worked as a TA before that for 15 years full time. I would support it only if equal money were given to those of us who were already paying our share. Also, I cannot have any children so will never benefit from their ability to use free tuition either.
1/10/2017 11:03 p.m.
Earn it/work harder/appreciate it.
1/10/2017 10:37 p.m.
Kids often do not take high school serious, so college won't be that much more serious. Great party time, it's free! How about some help for those students and parents who have been paying and graduated and now working but strapped with loans and high interest rates as well!
1/10/2017 10:32 p.m.
Ultimately all money in the NY state budget comes from taxpayers. We already pay for K-12 education for each child. We cannot afford the additional expense of funding 4 year college educations for everyone, who wants to attend.
1/10/2017 9:43 p.m.
Government give-aways of taxpayer monies have resulted in more people on welfare, food sta.m.ps and many other entitlement programs than at any time since the Kennedy/Johnson years. The result is more people dependent on the government (your dollars) and less people contributing to advance this great country. Cuomo's estimate of the cost is vastly understated which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The number of "students" going to college will increase, the cost of running SUNY/CUNY/Community Colleges will increase, while the quality of graduates will decrease. When you consider how much the State has decreased the amount of money paid to support State-supported campuses, does this make sense? It is just another political ploy to make those in power look good... all so they can stay in power and will be paid for by our children and grandchildren.
1/10/2017 9:20 p.m.
Children need to get jobs to pay for college. Not everyone is "college material."
1/10/2017 8:14 p.m.
Let them find financing like I had to. A lot of people get free education as it is with welfare paying the tab. That's just not right!
1/10/2017 8:13 p.m.
Who's paying for this? This is not a good thing to do especially now! If it means higher taxes on school and land I will leave NY state for sure. We are taxed to death as it is.
1/10/2017 7:56 p.m.
Absolutely not. I a.m. not paying for anyone else's child to go to college. How the heck is that fair, my children have huge loans. Are you going to help us. (Not) How is this fair for the students that just graduated in the last couple years. It's NOT. We only have an income of $55,000. Nobody helped us. Parent plus loans are so bad. They give you no options to change your unbelievable interest amount. Parents are stuck. Why the hell don't you come up with something to HELP the parents. I'm sick of hearing everything is going to be free for these SNOWFLAKES.
1/10/2017 7:21 p.m.
I had to work a job full time, have a fa.m.ily and go to college full-time. The best part I had to pay for it myself no hand out. Why not some loan forgiveness to people who are still paying back loans.
1/10/2017 6:15 p.m.
Why do I have to pay for some bum to go to school I paid for all my kids to go with no help from them at all.
1/10/2017 5:13 p.m.
The taxpayer will pay for it.
1/10/2017 4:58 p.m.
Somebody has to pay for this free stuff.
1/10/2017 3:57 p.m.
Who is going to pay for this? Are we going to be taxed more so NYC residents can go to college for free.
1/10/2017 3:43 p.m.
Of course I support it, as long as it does not increase our already country leading taxes. Won't support it if it does not include all taxpayers regardless of income level. Higher income people pay more taxes, yet won't be allowed to benefit. Something wrong with that.
1/10/2017 2:49 p.m.
Where is this money coming from?
1/10/2017 2:32 p.m.
Maybe help with tuition, but it is not up to the people of NYS to fund some kids education.
1/10/2017 2:08 p.m.
Absolutely not. If everything is free, what is the incentive to do well. This is another "everyone gets a ribbon." If this goes through, then all past college loans should be forgiven.
1/10/2017 2:00 p.m.
Only if student loans for everyone else are forgiven
1/10/2017 1:29 p.m.
Need to see the details!
1/10/2017 1:16 p.m.
Millions of students have paid their way through SUNY schools; do they get reimbursed for their tuition?
1/10/2017 12:48 p.m.
No, why not clean up excess spending so tuition is across the board lower. How much percent increase has occurred? Way too much.. end the greed.
1/10/2017 12:12 p.m.
We already pay enough.
1/10/2017 11:51 a.m.
My concern is how they're going to pay for it.
1/10/2017 11:34 a.m.
There is no reason to give students free college. I paid back my school loans, will I receive a check for having already paid for my schooling? I should as I will by paying taxes pay for everyone else's education. The tax system will cost more in the long run, when you take a loan out, the payments end when paid off, the taxes will never stop coming.
1/10/2017 10:53 a.m.
Free tuition? What kind of left-wing plan is that? It has been scientifically proven with math and such that education is unnecessary in today's world. I can barely pay for my iPhone and scratchoffs, so I a.m. not going to pay for nobody's fancy book learning! George Washington would never have bombed Pearl Harbor if he knew that America was going to become a place of generosity and forethought! Trump.
1/10/2017 10:51 a.m.
Absolutely; tuition should be free. With the current system, people working in modestly-compensated professions (e.g., education, social work, nursing) who are required to complete graduate education are subsidizing the cost of having trained professionals in our communities. It's time for all the people who take advantage of these services to share in the responsibility of educating the professionals upon whom they rely.
1/10/2017 10:51 a.m.
No, if anyone thinks it will get people off welfare they are crazy. The career welfare people begin their career at earliest high school dropout age. So now I wonder when will us taxpayers be getting our new "college tax bills?" Maybe June, and it will probably be based on our assessments like our school and property taxes are. So as I see it, it's slap in the face to all that have payed their own way,and to those who never had children. Cuomo is looking for more votes from the poor inner city kids when he runs for president starting in you guessed it three years. Coincidentally the same length of for free college to be fully implemented.
1/10/2017 10:19 a.m.
There has been free college tuitions for years now! Just serve your country and after a term you can go to college!
1/10/2017 10:01 a.m.
No!!!! This is just another ridiculous handout to people who are not willing to work. Other states have found that free tuition breeds problem for hard working taxpayers — people who become professional students well into their 30s. The issue is that kids coming out of our public schools are not being properly prepared for college or for life for that matter. We're tired of paying taxes for a public education system that doesn't work as it is. Take care of the elementary and secondary education our kids should be receiving first. That will take care of most of our problems. Who wants to pay for free loaders who get to college and need to catch up on what they didn't get in school. Enough is enough.
1/10/2017 9:52 a.m.
How to answer this question. Hummmm. I'm all for free education BUT how does this affect the tax payer and I'm sure it will. Then you have young people such as my daughter who has student loans that she is struggling to pay. How fair is this to these people? Now my last question is what other la.m.e ideas is our s____d governor going to come up with? Come on now!
1/10/2017 9:46 a.m.
I applaud the idea, however, we all know this will be passed on to taxpayers and many struggle to pay taxes now.
1/10/2017 9:40 a.m.
Free huh? Your kids "free" education already taxes homeowners to the breaking point, are they trying to make this place a ghost town? Tax people enough and they'll just leave and this whole house of cards falls down. Free A.K.A. no idea of how economics works.
1/10/2017 9:26 a.m.
Great idea, but who's going to pay for this "free education"
1/10/2017 9:23 a.m.
More taxes, somebody has to pay.
1/10/2017 8:44 a.m.
Somehow it will have to be paid for, higher sales tax maybe or possibly higher property tax or most likely higher income tax. So many students move out of the State when they graduate, I see why.
1/10/2017 8:38 a.m.
We can't afford more school taxes.
1/10/2017 8:33 a.m.
Absolutely NOT. What about the people who are in debt for 20 years paying for their education. If you really want it you will work for it. If you work for it, you will appreciate it that much more. I paid in full my master’s degree and I a.m. proud of it. It was not easy but I did it. No help from parents or freebees. I worked full time and did it.
1/10/2017 7:55 a.m.
The devil is ALWAYS in the details. This appears to be aimed only at the last shreds of the Middle Class (which is fine, as far as it goes), but leaves the working poor in the dust (as usual). Like the so-called Middle Class Child Care Tax credit Cuomo has proposed, you have to have money to spend in order to get it back on your taxes. For example, In NYS, 83% of low-income families eligible for a child care tax subsidy are turned away because of a lack of slots, and it does not help parents making less than $50K a year to cover the costs of quality child care (where again, the slots do not exist). Even the proposal to increase by 22,000 the number of after school slots is targeted at 16 urban areas, leaving all of rural NY (Hello, North Country!) in the lurch. So ask yourself how many rural NYers make $100K to start with, for this proposal. And all the ancillary costs of college — housing, food, books, transportation, child care, etc. — will still be the huge barriers they already are. Plus, we will not have addressed the current problem in SUNY schools: Too many students who are not prepared to the work. We need an educational merit system (like we used to have back in the 1960s and 1970s in New York), where strong high school with academic preparation can earn scholarships that cover basic tuition costs. Further turning SUNY colleges into glorified high schools for students unprepared for the intellectual rigor of college will not solve any problems. Nor will the lack of jobs once you graduate bolster the Middle Class, which has been dying on the vine for the last 30 years, if you look at real wage growth and opportunity. And we can not ignore the further slashing of the social safety net we face once the Trump Administration gets out their long knives, which will throw even more of our citizens in the distressed economic zone. Beware of Governors promising targeted programs at big blocks of suburban and urban voters with his eye toward 2020.
1/10/2017 7:38 a.m.
The tax payer will be paying for it.
1/10/2017 7:30 a.m.
Lets just keep giving out hand outs.
1/10/2017 6:57 a.m.
It will erode the quality of our SUNY system by flooding it with students that don't have the same level of commitment because they didn't have to put anything in. We should make school affordable — not free.
1/10/2017 6:54 a.m.
Absolutely not. I believe when a student proves themselves at graduation would be the time for reimbursement, we already pay for drop outs. How about making a plan for the grads that are paying student loans and have to pay 6% interest. He has no common sense but again that's my opinion
1/10/2017 6:38 a.m.
Sure, just what we need more hand outs for kids! Make them pay their way. Will make a better person out of em... and here is something I support. Everyone should only have to work till the age of 50. Then you get to retire and the government pays for your retirement. Your retirement income is based on your last year’s income. If its $30,000, you get $30,000 a year. I like it!
1/10/2017 6:13 a.m.
It is wrong to put our children into further debt just to stuff the pockets of elitist professors who are far removed from reality!
1/10/2017 5:34 a.m.
Nothing is free, the tax payer will pick up the tab.
1/10/2017 5:22 a.m.
I think the Governor should come up with a plan to lower the interest rate on student loan debt being paid back now. If his plan goes through Students that don't finish college should have to pay their free $$$ back.
1/10/2017 5:07 a.m.
Make it free for ALL students... forget the income base.
1/10/2017 4:04 a.m.
What about NY state residents that have student loan debt from attending those schools?
1/10/2017 2:47 a.m.
How unfair is this, for all those young people who have worked part-time jobs to pay for their education; also, all those parents who have saved and saved for their children's college in the past. This is an outrage, and sounds like true Socialism - just look at Bernice Sanders, who was pictured with Cuomo; Sanders, a true Socialist!!!!
1/10/2017 12:21 a.m.
Yup, let's make everything free (paid by Govt.) that is deemed too expensive without looking to why it may be considered too expensive and looking to ways to make it cheaper.
1/9/2017 11:35 p.m.
It would raise taxes on the middle class, like always.Just because that asshat Bernie wanted free education, doesn't mean we have to have it ra.m.med down our throats.
1/9/2017 11:26 p.m.
I (support) scholar incentive to needy students, but they need to share the burden also.
1/9/2017 9:41 p.m.
The taxpayers will be the ones paying, come on think about it!!
1/9/2017 9:30 p.m.
What about the grad's with large debts. Help them too.
1/9/2017 8:36 p.m.
We are already taxed to the max, but everyone should have a great education it benefits everyone.
1/9/2017 8:16 p.m.
NOT until I know where the money is coming from and WHO will be paying added taxes, how much, etc. etc. etc. ... . In other words, ALL the details and a full transparency of the entire operation if so much as a dime is expected from ANY taxpayer, not just me!
1/9/2017 8:15 p.m.
Definitely NOT. Better to evaluate professors' salaries. Have you looked at what they fork in for their limited working year?
1/9/2017 8:08 p.m.
There is no "magic money" out there to pay for it. So it will fall once more into the laps of the tax payers one way or another.
1/9/2017 8:07 p.m.
Yes! There are some students that really need this to be able to go! Great idea!
1/9/2017 7:47 p.m.
They have to take a reputable course we need in this time, i.e. electricity, mechanical, health care etc. They also have to maintain a GP of "C," take minimum credit hours and pay back 1% per year for # of years, (no such thing as a free meal), or work in their field of study in NYS for years of education or 5 years. If they maintain a "B" they can then go on to another level i.e. teaching. We already give free education and only 5% pass, work in the field or work at all which I feel is absolutely wrong.
1/9/2017 7:46 p.m.
Ask the employees of SUNY to take a 50% pay cut and see how they respond.
1/9/2017 7:41 p.m.
The students that qualify for this already get free tutition thru TAP and Pell grants. I would only support it if they forgave past students student loans. It would only be fair.
1/9/2017 7:41 p.m.
Much like everything else, you will appreciate it more when you pay for it. However, I don't agree that it should cost as much as it does. I feel there is room for decreasing tuition to make it affordable.
1/9/2017 7:41 p.m.
Like welfare if it's free it gets abused, not all are equipped for college.
1/9/2017 7:24 p.m.
Another untouchable liberal dream! But guess what, anyone can already go for free. Join the military and use your GI bill/tuition assistance! Free college with added discipline, honor and respect! Three things clearly lacking in today's youth!
1/9/2017 6:03 p.m.
Hum... what's the catch?
1/9/2017 5:36 p.m.
Don't do this and raise taxes to support it. People making over $100,000 can afford to pay SUNY tuition. If they can't, they need to plan better. Low income folks already don't pay.
1/9/2017 5:35 p.m.
What about my child's student loans he has taken out.
1/9/2017 5:20 p.m.
IT was never available to me, so NO. I would have went to college if it was free! You will have everyone going, and who's going to foot the bill?? Not me! I already have to pay a fine so others can keep their healthcare, I a.m. NOT paying anything for other people to get a better higher paying job. Are you serious??? This is bull
1/9/2017 4:51 p.m.
I just paid for my son's 6 years at SUNY Potsdam and Canton... do I get a refund??
1/9/2017 4:51 p.m.
What they need to fix is the high interest rates on the fed loans! Also, how you have zero income for your graduate classes and can't get anything other than loan to pay for it !
1/9/2017 4:34 p.m.
NO there is no such thing as a free lunch. The tax payers will have to pay for this program. Nice though but not practical.
1/9/2017 4:29 p.m.
Taxes are high enough already!
1/9/2017 4:19 p.m.
Who will pick up the slack? Tax payers? NO THANK YOU! My taxes are high enough!
1/9/2017 4:08 p.m.
My mother had free tuition in 1958 and 1959, as long as you lived in NY state, you would see more people bettering themselves and kids staying out of trouble.
1/9/2017 4:02 p.m.
I paid for my children’s education and I don't want to pay for someone else to go free. Already can't afford to live in New York now on a fixed income I'm sick of high taxes and the cost of living!!!!!!
1/9/2017 3:52 p.m.
Our taxes are high enough.
1/9/2017 3:40 p.m.
Free is not the answer. Any time someone gets something for free they do not respect it. Some kind of help is needed but not free. Have people looked around and noticed many off our graduates from colleges are working in fast food, supermarkets, Walmart, etc.
1/9/2017 3:38 p.m.
No our progressive liberal government strikes again, with higher taxes on the middle class
1/9/2017 3:20 p.m.
Enough is enough already!
1/9/2017 3:19 p.m.
But, there has to be a better way to pay for it instead of hitting the pockets of the tax payers.
1/9/2017 3:12 p.m.
About time we help our young people and for helping our middle class plus lower income families. This will allow so many more attend college and better themselves and the country.
1/9/2017 3:05 p.m.
1/9/2017 2:55 p.m.
Not having any college age children, I would have been happier if he had signed the indigent defense bill. That would have saved everyone money.
1/9/2017 2:34 p.m.
If it means that I will pay for everyone else’s kids to attend college by means of taxation, then no. I a.m. pretty certain this is how Bernie laid out this plan.
1/9/2017 2:30 p.m.
1/9/2017 2:29 p.m.
1. NYS is already taxed to the limit. 2. SUNY schools are already reasonably priced. 3. Offer students free college education and you end up with students abusing the system, i.e. taking eight years to get a 4-year degree, or four years to get a 2-year degree. Or, taking worthless classes to keep their GPA high enough to continue in the program, etc, etc, etc. Cornell University offers a similiar program but that is paid for through private fund raising and the students must keep a B average in their major and attend full time.
1/9/2017 2:13 p.m.
No, who is going to pay for it? What will it cover? Will it cover new students or current students who have already accrued debt? What about remediation for folks who already owe and are low income?
1/9/2017 1:52 p.m.
What ever happen to earning what you want.
1/9/2017 1:45 p.m.
So because my wife and I will be making approximately $130,000 together that year, I get to pay for my child's and everyone else's? Thanks for nothing!
1/9/2017 1:24 p.m.
I can only think of the hundreds of foster children who would be able to attend college to gain the success they so greatly deserve!
1/9/2017 12:51 p.m.
And trade schools also.
1/9/2017 12:47 p.m.
1/9/2017 12:46 p.m.
How will budgets be met without this income? Taxpayers should not, we have paid our education loans, don't have children!!
1/9/2017 12:31 p.m.
Who exactly is going to pay for this "free" tuition? And after graduating, where will these individuals find jobs? The job market in the area of both of these institutions (St. Lawrence County) is non-existent. So the taxpayers here in this county will pay for free education to benefit everywhere but this county! Our governor does nothing for this "upstate NY" area. He seems to think upstate NY ends with Albany.
1/9/2017 12:28 p.m.
Someone has to pay for the education and taxpayers are paying enough. College is not a right, but a desire to improve yourself. I was brought up that you pay for what you want and you will appreciate it more. The Democrats have driven away the population by increasing the taxes and fees in NY so us that have to remain have to pay.
1/9/2017 12:11 p.m.
No Cuomo sucks and this is just a ploy to give him national recognition for a presidential run. Making people start paying full tuition if they make 125K is crap. I bust my butt and my wife does also so we make over 125, but that doesnt mean that college isn’t just as expensive as it is for someone who make 100 K. It should be scaled so everyone pays something but just not as much. Boy I hate Cuomo. He can’t do anything to benefit anybody but himself.
1/9/2017 12:10 p.m.
Do not include inmates!
1/9/2017 12:07 p.m.
There should be some conditions added.
1/9/2017 11:51 a.m.
But... and it's a BIG but... it should be earned. Students should HAVE to maintain a certain average in HS... this will get parents involved in how students perform in HS and will give a HUGE incentive for students to do well in HS, which seems to be a problem plaguing our secondary schools. Free sometimes loses value to recipients.
1/9/2017 11:44 a.m.
Left Wing BS!!
1/9/2017 11:34 a.m.
Of course the superintendents of Canton and Potsda.m. schools would love having free college. They should be embarrassed by what comes out of their schools. When the kids have to go to college to learn what we did in public school. It's a sha.m.e. I would be asha.m.ed to actually admit being a teacher now days. They are well over paid and very under educated. Our kids have no chance and now they are learning to live off the system. So sad but such a leftist agenda. Sorry kids you will never know a real adult life thanks to Cuomo. Thank god Trump wants us to be able to choose our children's future by selecting one on our own.
1/9/2017 11:33 a.m.
I love the idea — it's nice to see people getting something concrete for the taxes they pay (it's not free). Looks like it will be the tuition difference after state and federal sources and only if a kid qualifies for TAP... this will limit quite a few people. I wonder where he will get the money... cutting public schools again or raising taxes?
1/9/2017 11:19 a.m.
Andy's just looking to appeal to the low info voters and Bernie's snowflake supporters so he can run for president in 2020. God help us if he should get there! Done enough da.m.age to NY already.
1/9/2017 11:19 a.m.
Nothing is ever completely free. Someone somehow must pay for the costs of this education. There have been too many young adults who have been given a free ride to college that have used the time only as an opportunity to party. I'm sick and tired of this society being one of entitlement. Whatever happened to rolling up your sleeves, following some rules or guidelines, and earning things for a change.
1/9/2017 11:12 a.m.
Every single middle class student should not attend college tuition free. There need to be some GPA requirements in order to make them eligible. I don't want my tax dollars paying for a kid who barely passed high school to go to college.
1/9/2017 10:59 a.m.
I paid for my college, why should kids today get it for free? Also, Coumo wants to kill the "monopoly" of K-12 Public schools, but grow the monopoly of SUNY Schools??
1/9/2017 10:39 a.m.
Cuomo if you want to do this then help the people who are struggling with student loans from back when by having no interest added to the a.m.ount you borrowed!!! People get close to paying them off then have a financial problem and can't pay and hit with all the interest charge makes it go back to where we started from. Do something with this before giving out FREE tuition!!!
1/9/2017 10:38 a.m.
NO, nothing is free. Someone always has to pay for it...taxes the way of New York State! Join the military to pay for college.
1/9/2017 10:32 a.m.
Find out how the State of Texas does it. Free to residents of Texas.
1/9/2017 10:17 a.m.
If the cost is going to be added to my taxes, answer is NO
1/9/2017 10:13 a.m.
I don't support free tuition. Having to take your coursework seriously so that you don't waste your loans or your parents' loans/contribution is a persuasion factor that works! Free tuition would be nice but it hasn't existed for generations and it doesn't need to. Yes, student debt is tough for young employees but maybe the students should have to work while attending classes, only enroll for what they can pay for, or pursue a field that will support them (including their college debt) upon graduation (a field with higher paying jobs). Maybe college grads won't be able to live in the North Country initially after graduation. This also is a good thing...get out there, spread your wings!!! How terrible for the students in the pipeline or just graduated now to have this opportunity raised NOW! So unfair.
1/9/2017 9:53 a.m.
Not only is this another unfunded mandate, the proposal will only help students whose parents earn substantial salaries. Students from poor families will already have university costs covered through federal Pell, NY State TAP and loans. This only benefits the well off.
1/9/2017 9:50 a.m.
Tax payers will end up paying! Get a job and pay your way threw school!!
1/9/2017 9:46 a.m.
How is it being played for?
1/9/2017 9:25 a.m.
We have to spend more on education to reverse trend of incarcerating more and more people. Taxpayers don't blink an eye at paying 40k a year to lock someone up, but god forbid pay more toward education!! GO full steam ahead Goveror Cuomo!!!
1/9/2017 9:15 a.m.
As I indicated above, it depends on the details — how it will be paid for, if there will be a screening process so that students who do no work for 4 years in HS won't be welcomed into a college unqualified for the work there, that our local schools be maintained structurally and academically to foster learning and love of learning, and that the education provided in these higher education institutions is indeed worthwhile.
1/9/2017 9:13 a.m.
For middle class I support free tuition, for below or above I no. The middle class carry this country its time to start giving them a break.
1/9/2017 9:13 a.m.
What’s good for one good for all. No more tax burden taxes to high in New York.
1/9/2017 9:12 a.m.
Children today get too many "freebees." They are more likely to put forth an effort in college if they are paying for it. I would almost bet the a.m.ount of dropouts will increase and there will be no consequences for the student.
1/9/2017 9:02 a.m.
Not if the burden will be placed on the tax payers, personally. Cuomo needs to go.
1/9/2017 8:56 a.m.
I would support this measure ONLY if SUNY got their financial house in order first. There is too much frivolous spending of tax dollars. Too little work from high priced faculty. Too much emphasis on sports.
1/9/2017 8:54 a.m.
There is no such thing as free. Somebody always has to pay and its always the poor lucky to have a job people.
1/9/2017 8:49 a.m.
Would like to see it be retroactive for last 10 years.
1/9/2017 8:29 a.m.
Think it is just a ploy by Cuomo to make unions look bad when they hold out for reasonable wage increases to keep up with the rising cost of living.
1/9/2017 8:29 a.m.
There is already a generation of college graduates who are struggling to pay off their college debt. It makes sense to help out those who are already drowning before helping those who haven't yet accumulated the massive debt.
1/9/2017 8:28 a.m.
It's time New York moved toward progressive ideals and it's time the people who earn large salaries paid their fair share. I'd like to see a new New York State tax plan that increases state taxes on those earning $150 or more per year. That's where money for education should come from.
1/9/2017 8:26 a.m.
Even the kids who may benefit from it are not naïve enough to think of it as "free." Maybe in light of President Trump's historic landslide even the left will start to realize that we flyover folks aren't that dumb. Call it what it is — "taxpayer tuition."
1/9/2017 8:19 a.m.
We need good education for our children for sure, but how to pay for it? Is this just another thing that the taxpayers will be held liable for, and knowing NYS we'd be lucky if 10 % went towards actual tuitions instead of where it will probably end up, in some one’s pocket.
1/9/2017 8:14 a.m.
Take their tuition money and use it to lower my taxes.
1/9/2017 8:09 a.m.
At what expense to other programs? Something will have to be cut. Perhaps cutting the cost in half and holding it there based upon income would help or using formula from free and reduced lunch could be used.
1/9/2017 8:06 a.m.
The tax payers will have to pay for it. NO MORE TAXES.
1/9/2017 7:57 a.m.
I would be in favor of a reduced rate but nothing in life should be free.
1/9/2017 7:55 a.m.
I think this a great idea, but wonder where the money to pay for the program will come from? I think students receiving the tuition assistance should also have to maintain at least a 2.0 GPA and pass random drug testing to keep their "gift." Misbehavior should result in losing the tuition too. Hey, you don't get something for nothing!
1/9/2017 7:39 a.m.
No doubt this will fall on the taxpayers somewhere along the way! Our government just does not give ANYTHING for FREE! Remember this people! You are getting sca.m.med!
1/9/2017 7:34 a.m.
Not all children should attend college and those that do should have their parents pay for it.
1/9/2017 7:32 a.m.
Unless NYS completely revamps funding for SUNY, this will not work. SUNY itself will continue to fire staff and add only part-time faculty at SUNY schools, while adding extra layers of administrators such as local SUNYs have done.
1/9/2017 7:24 a.m.
Taxes are high enough. I like to keep more of my money. No, I a.m. not rich either. Just like to have enough to survive. I’m sick of going without and others living on the taxpayers expense and enjoying life.
1/9/2017 7:23 a.m.
The students should pay their tuition by working! They need to grow up, get jobs and be responsible!
1/9/2017 7:20 a.m.
Just higher taxes.
1/9/2017 7:17 a.m.
Nothing is free.
1/9/2017 7:08 a.m.
How does he propose to pay for it? Does it only apply to residents? Lots of questions.
1/9/2017 7:06 a.m.
Nothing is FREE. The costs associated with this scheme are going to be enormous. You'll see people with no jobs flocking here to get "free" college, they'll need additional "free" services too. Yes, college is way over priced for what you get, but the answer isn't putting a bigger burden on the tax payers. It's in making online education workable, certifiable and acceptable. There's no need for brick and mortar schools for a basic degree anymore.
1/9/2017 6:54 a.m.
I wonder if this will affect students retroactively? Will it affect people already burdened by debt or just create a system where people who graduated in the wrong year are burdened by debt but someone who graduated 5 years later has none at all?
1/9/2017 6:52 a.m.
More ways for the little dictator to piss our money away.
1/9/2017 6:51 a.m.
The governor claims NY has a huge deficit to overcome this year but somehow (2020 Presidential aspirations?) we magically have all this money to give for "free" college. I guess those of us who actually paid our bills and college loans (state schools) were just suckers huh? Now we get to pay everyone else's bills as well.
1/9/2017 6:48 a.m.
Does the governor print his own money?
1/9/2017 6:43 a.m.
My shoes have holes in them. Never mind, they are just sandals.
1/9/2017 6:35 a.m.
I want more free things and stuff.
1/9/2017 6:32 a.m.