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At a recent Finance Committee meeting St. Lawrence County legislators voted to oppose a proposed state law that would allow search history and electronic communications from as far back as three years to be considered when issuing pistol licenses.

According to the resolution the proposal would infringe on the First, Second, and Fourth Amendments to the United States Constitution.

Do you support or oppose the proposed law?

64.6% -- Oppose

31.9% -- Support

3.5% -- Unsure

Total responses: 370

Comments: 136

Here are your comments:


Only an idiot would think that this would help. Just another reason for me to not spend another dollar in NYS. So stupid. Only folks with a low IQ would think this will keep criminals from getting guns. SMH

1/13/2019 7:04 PM

Of course, pistols aren't needed for hunting so they are especially of concern. Pistols are nothing but problems and usually owned by egotistically mean people. Should be totally outlawed, as they are too easily concealed. This ain't Dodge City and there's too many "Louie's" (town drunks) in this county. With social services having to take on more staff to protect family members, guns don't need to be in the mix.

1/13/2019 3:51 PM

Emperor Coumo at it again.

1/13/2019 2:12 PM

Shall not infringe.

1/13/2019 12:46 PM

Gun control laws are needed. But the right wing and trump jumpers will say that their guns protect them and constitution and blah blah. We live in a backwards good ole boy dumb area full of Republican "geniuses" who willfully ask for autocratic ideals to protect their racism.

1/13/2019 11:25 AM

Passing this law thinking that it will make us safer in regards to gun violence is very misguided and will start us down that slippery slope of having the basic rights given us under the constitution being eroded and taken away.

1/12/2019 7:13 PM

What gives officials any particular skill to interpret written communication or search history? Many searches take place out of a casual curiosity and do not represent any serious interest in the subject. For example, you hear the unfamiliar term "bump stock" and do a search to find out what it is. That's the extent of your interest. I can see someone being denied a permit or getting a knock on the door because of such casual searches. I also can imagine officials exceeding their mandate and getting into areas that are none of their business.

1/12/2019 6:35 PM

More government pecking away at our freedoms!

1/12/2019 5:48 PM

With the onerous process already in place this is absolutely senseless.

1/12/2019 2:10 PM

New York's gun laws are already far too stringent. the safe ac tis worst. Repeal it.

1/12/2019 2:03 PM

What is said on social media isnt exactly reliable. Some people straight up lie, some people have an alias. Some people are just trying to get a rise out of people.

1/12/2019 12:44 PM

I oppose pistol permits in general. I believe in Constitutional Carry.

1/12/2019 11:55 AM

I support the Constitution.

1/12/2019 11:04 AM

The People should propose a law that in the case of candidates for state level office. Their search history and electronic communications as well as financial dealings from as far back as TEN years should be considered and made public! Same considerations should be made for their supporting cast.

1/12/2019 9:06 AM

Blatantly illegal

1/12/2019 8:54 AM

Laws to obtain a license should be made harder not easier.

1/12/2019 7:33 AM

This just might temper the climate of hate that permeates our society.

1/12/2019 6:25 AM

I oppose. Reasons being is sometimes people are being sarcastic and others have no idea that there is such a thing. Therefore they take everything literally and blow it all out of proportion. Also it infringes on our First Amendment because it makes everyone have to sensor their posts for fear of wrongful interpretation.

1/11/2019 9:04 PM

It is a unwarranted invasion of privacy. How about for a teaching license or a hairdresser. There is no end to it.

1/11/2019 8:09 PM

Criminal records, and personal references should only be considered. People do say a lot of stupid stuff that doesn't mean they will go on a shooting spree.

1/11/2019 4:07 PM

I've had the innate privilege for 35 years to have a "conceal and carry permit " but only so granted, because I've been a law - abiding citizen with no criminal history . In passing, and what bewilders me though, is why a legislative " finance committee" would have any involvement in such a decision policy anyway , but whatever ! The only personal search history though , that I would see of magnitude for our respected judicial system decision would be the "criminal history file" of the pre-licensed candidate requesting a gun privilege . I am most definitely in accord with the First Amendment but only for those that have earned the privilege . I don't endorse personally many of the NRA demands as they seem to stretch into being too radical at times with an "anything goes mentality" which to me is counter-productive but also very dangerous, when they don't want to compromise on anything ,especially aspects that defy common sense, like being able to "own an Uzi for personal use ....etc ". ?? !!! What I do believe is that those who have earned the privilege in behavioral and mental capacity have deserved the privilege with the understanding that it can be revoked at any time by the judicial system . In statistics those that have licenses aren't the ones that commit the gun violent crimes anyway so isn't that for lack of a better term ... ironic ?

1/11/2019 2:53 PM

All the Dems want our guns, let's just smoke a joint with them got trump make America great again build that wall higher now

1/11/2019 2:20 PM

If you don't have anything to hide then shouldn't be a problem!

1/11/2019 10:49 AM

Anything to make our country a safer place to live. There have been way to many shootings. People with issues should not own guns.

1/11/2019 9:07 AM

Dumb law

1/11/2019 8:50 AM

Just another of the unending attempts by Gov. Cuomo and liberal democrats to end the Second Amendment any way they can.

1/11/2019 8:45 AM

No more gun laws. Criminals do not obey the laws. The only people this will effect is law abiding citizens. This is so stupid. Try doing something to bring jobs into the area. Maybe a gun factory.

1/11/2019 8:35 AM

a landlord can search back 3 years to decide if they want to give you the right to have their property in your possession. Shouldn't they be able to do that before giving you the OK to own a pistol?

1/11/2019 8:12 AM

What does it have to do with the amendments? In this day and age, everything possible should be looked at making sure a pistol permit is issued to those trustworthy to have one.

1/11/2019 8:11 AM

you never hear the gov talk about disarming criminals gangs or drug dealers. just us law abiding citizens

1/11/2019 8:01 AM

I don't support a government nor its officials that would infringe on the right of citizens Missed the 5th Amendment and 8th Amendment This is an attack on the Bill of Rights No one should stand for this

1/11/2019 3:56 AM

Enough stupidity from the Democratic party!

1/10/2019 7:13 PM

I oppose this new state law. But if they really want to pass it, lets make ALL the lawmakers pushing for this law make ALL their electronic communications public from the last three years. They may start singing a different tune when it effects them.

1/10/2019 6:55 PM

I am a permit holder in St. Lawrence county and the background check that is in place is very thorough. We lose more and more of our constitutional rights as free citizens as years go on, we don't need to lose any more protection from the document that our country was built upon.

1/10/2019 5:26 PM

File this under the category that “you couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried!” Back when news of this “proposed legislation” came out, I wondered what "downstate" District the crafter of it i.e. NYS Senator Kevin Parker represents. So, I googled him. Seriously, you should do that too. Not because you will find the obvious which is he is “not from around here”. Rather, it is because you do not even have to add the word “arrested” to the search to be absolutely amazed at all that pops up. Which beyond the multiple assault arrests include a December 18th 2018 story in the New York Post. From which I cut & paste quote “Hotheaded state Sen. Kevin Parker told a state GOP operative to “Kill yourself!” on Twitter Tuesday after she publicly accused him of misusing his official parking placard.” Oookay and with this “do as I say not as I do” idiot in mind – how about this for the next North Country Now Question Of The week: “Do you support or oppose a proposed law that mandates that those seeking public office make public prior to election(s) their search history and electronic communications from as far back as three years?”

1/10/2019 4:24 PM

Background checks are a good thing. People with guns who are cray cray kill things. People shouldn't be one of them.

1/10/2019 3:50 PM

Hell, yes I oppose this crazy idea. This is just another attack on our 2nd amendment rights, followed by disregarding the 1st, and 4th. New York has some of the most stringent gun laws on the books now. The real problem is that bad guys who want guns don't abide by the laws to begin with. This is akin to arresting anyone who drives because they might have a FATAL accident.

1/10/2019 3:15 PM

There are far too many politicians infringing on our rights as outlined by our Constitution.

1/10/2019 1:07 PM

This is too intrusive.

1/10/2019 10:42 AM

Yes,many times you can tell the mentality of someone by what they post on social media. Too many sick twisted people running among us. .I know a couple people that shouldn't have any kind of gun.

1/10/2019 9:14 AM

Enough big brother stuff. Let's live by the constitution.

1/10/2019 8:05 AM

I can already hear the shouts from the rednecks: “They comin’ to take my guns!”......Besides the fact that gun ownership really isn’t a right, as defined by the Constitution, speech is free unless it constitutes a willful harm or intent to harm others. You can’t yell “Fire!” in a crowded theater for the fun of watching the stampede, as an example. You don’t have a right to own a pistol and if you’re a hate-spewing (whatever your political view) simmering pot waiting to boil over you shouldn’t have ANY weapons. Suck it up, snowflake.

1/10/2019 8:04 AM

County legislators have no business being involved in this matter! They have more important issues to address!! Just a few gun crazy nut cases stirring the pot!!

1/10/2019 7:38 AM

One more law to keep guns from good people...

1/10/2019 7:24 AM

Unconstitutional in all regards.

1/10/2019 7:11 AM

All Governments need to stop trying to re-write the Constitution, the present gun permit investigations should still be sufficient.

1/10/2019 7:09 AM

There's nothing wrong with this idea.

1/10/2019 12:42 AM

Domestic violence is no joke! Terrorism is no joke! Checks going that far back are necessary to ensure guns don't fall into the wrong hands!

1/9/2019 6:55 PM

First of all it is unconstitutional and it opens the door to play politics with permit applications.

1/9/2019 6:44 PM

There are enough crazy people around with guns, why add to the herd. Background checks should be extended even further.

1/9/2019 6:27 PM

This will never fly. Even if it did you will never get my information. Never!

1/9/2019 4:14 PM

When one applies for a pistol permit in NYS (Yes, I have one) there is a rigorous examination of that person's record and their interaction with others. I'd say anything they were dumb enough to publish in public forum on social media should be fair game as evidence of their fitness for a permit.

1/9/2019 3:51 PM

We have rights that should not be infringed upon.

1/9/2019 3:45 PM

If you throw things out there on social media, be prepared to have anyone and everyone read them. If you don't want an electronic record of your past, don't put it out there.

1/9/2019 3:25 PM

Im not usually one to be unsure but this is a good question that I struggle with. Personally with nothing to hide when applying for a pistol license, I could care less what they snoop at. But you have to admit that it's really reaching out there on so many levels. Cant wait to see the results of this post. And does it truly represent a persons beliefs and behaviors if they posted something which may be taken out of context.

1/9/2019 1:45 PM

I don't like it. But most of the mass murderers seem to have nasty online work it would have to be done on a regular basis with people who already have licenses.

1/9/2019 1:27 PM

Infringement on citizens rights to privacy. Government already has any criminal activities.

1/9/2019 11:53 AM

My passwords are Private, what part of Private don't they understand? I do my banking etc. online and they want to be privileged to that info thru my passwords--not

1/9/2019 10:25 AM

I support, BUT don't think this goes far enough. Family members and friends need to be interviewed to get the real background on a person. A hot-headed person that loses their temper at a drop of a hat should NOT have access to a gun or guns...ever. They can put on a good show for others, but family is the only ones that truly know the mindset of a person. Guns are dangerous in the wrong hands. 3 years is not enough.

1/9/2019 9:34 AM

Chodemo wanting to take away citizens' rights again.

1/9/2019 9:19 AM

Do not violate the constitution.

1/9/2019 9:11 AM

What no "Privacy Law" Must be only when it benefits Government. :(

1/9/2019 9:00 AM

Cuomo needs to suck it

1/9/2019 8:46 AM

Shall not be infringed!

1/9/2019 8:18 AM

NRA owns these people?

1/9/2019 7:53 AM

we need our constitutional rights

1/9/2019 7:50 AM

Absolutely oppose. It is a huge infringement on our rights. They even suggest possible drug tests for those on public assistance and the cry goes far and wide that it infringes on their rights. Then they shut down that proposal instantly. But who cares about the gun owners. Most legal gun owners are law abiding citizens. Those who break the law will break it regardless. This will do nothing to stop most mass shootings. Use the laws that are already in place, and repeal the safe act as that does nothing but infringe on the rights of those who already obey the laws.

1/9/2019 6:53 AM

Our amendments are being attack all the times. If we loose any part of then we will loose everything.

1/9/2019 6:35 AM

I guess today The Bill of Rights is just a suggestion list.

1/9/2019 6:05 AM

What’s next ?? You anti gun people better be careful what you wish for, I bet you people have allot of skeletons in your closets worth viewing also.

1/9/2019 5:22 AM

We don’t need more idiots with pistols,,,,

1/9/2019 12:01 AM

This is the most ridiculous, inane, invasive piece of legislation that I have ever seen. It smacks of George Orwell's novel, 1984, where every aspect of a citizens life was subject to government scrutiny. Cameras were everywhere, even inside your home, so that government agents would monitor your every verbal exchange. Think about that! The "If it save one life..." argument is based on pure emotion and not upon any sort of logic that I am familiar with. To assume that something like this could not pass would be a huge error. Write to each of your representatives and the head of the Gestapo, Andy Cuomo, and make your opinion known.

1/8/2019 5:26 PM

Anyone who behaves himself and has acted responsibly shouldn't mind the inquiry. People who have exclaimed on social media that they feel like going downtown and blasting a few rounds up main street should be identified.

1/8/2019 3:43 PM

whole heartedly I do.

1/8/2019 3:22 PM

I'm ok with them searching the history, although I am not ok with having to disclose my passwords. With identity theft such an issue, this opens up way too much liability.

1/8/2019 2:54 PM

Nothing you say online is private. If this is what it takes to keep one mentally ill individual from owning a firearm, so be it.

1/8/2019 10:54 AM

I applaud our legislatures for their opposition and I think it's a good decision. Better question is what do the criminals think? I'll tell you! They don't care! Because criminals don't file for pistol permits! Nobody willing to break the law cares what laws exist or what is proposed. The only people who care are honest hard working individuals. So stop messing with and screwing the honest citizen because it is sickening. I for one am absolutely positively fed up with this state and the politics that consistently screw the honest man and woman. All this is is another reason or presumptive way to limit what you do. Nothing is gained it's just another proposed LAW that's all these idiots do is propose and make laws good grief how many laws do we need? Remember when we used to call Elected Officials as such or representatives? Nobody is represented anymore, now we call them LAW Makers. I would like to pat our Legislature's on the back for reresenting. By the way I do not have nor do I want a pistol permit but I do see the idiocy and unfairness of these political agenda driven proposals and laws that have been forced upon citizens. Notice I said Citizens not Criminals.

1/8/2019 10:53 AM

This may stop domestic violence offenders from getting their hands on more guns.

1/8/2019 8:40 AM

Who has a right to define what I write in a tweet or Facebook post. If I'm talking with a friend he knows what I'm saying I know what I'm saying. How can a third party jump in and say it's right or wrong. Just another way this socialist Cuomo is trying to control us. Maybe draw a line east to west just north of Albany and cut the state in half. Remember people leave this state because of weather!

1/8/2019 8:01 AM

Who decides on whom the deciders are that will do the reviews , Are they appointed and by whom with what qualifications ,are they elected ,where one set of opinions can change from election to election , or will the names be pulled out of a hat , (probably the fairest way) and least biased .. As they say Who watches the watchers..!

1/8/2019 7:59 AM

Our privacy is important. This is so Big Brother and very disturbing to know that it is even possible w/o a warrant.

1/8/2019 7:50 AM

What I oppose is the County wasting time discussing an issue that they have zero control over. Political pandering at its worst.

1/8/2019 7:48 AM

"Those who would sacrifice their liberty for security deserve neither." - Benjamin Franklin

1/8/2019 7:21 AM

I am uncertain whether or not this would be infringing upon a person's right to privacy. I take the libertarian perspective here.

1/8/2019 7:18 AM

We, the citizens of the State Of New York, have already suffered loss of our legitimate rights under the "Safe Act". Anything further enacted in the same vein would be cause for revolt.

1/8/2019 5:28 AM

already too much "big brother"in the state now!!!

1/8/2019 4:57 AM

It doesn't take a genius to figure out this is unconstitutional!

1/8/2019 4:57 AM

Big Brother at its best.

1/8/2019 4:40 AM

Greatly infringing on our constitutional rights. We need to remember our personal freedoms and what we stand for as a country.

1/7/2019 11:21 PM

All states should be open carry, no permit or permission from the govt necessary. Only felons should be restricted. Western states are open carry with few issues. As far as the phone, social media, internet search ; I believe that it is a huge overreach by govt. Punish those that do wrong. This attempt to punish people based on what they might do is wrong. Too similar to the movie "Minority Report" for me. If they need all this information for a handgun, why not for other activities including getting a drivers license. Yes, lets also do it for a drivers license. Far more people are killed by cars than guns. Guns are a right, driving is a privledge, slippery slope folks.

1/7/2019 11:11 PM

Three amendments, no less! What on Earth are these legislators drinking?

1/7/2019 11:08 PM

If the govt wants to search the public domain for info on me or my neighbor, I say fine - but I refuse access to my personal and private info and would consider such unlawful search and seizure and expect such will go down in a Supreme Court ruling if necessary. Extreme measures not protecting me just harassing people looking to protect themselves or families. Another sad NYS idea -- driving away more good people!

1/7/2019 9:17 PM

The Liberal Democrat Parker from NYC has had numerous arrests ...he definitely would be turned down if he applied for a pistol permit so his thinking must be if I cant have one i'll make it hard for everyone else , or make it so onerous to get one people will just not apply or recertify for the one they already have.

1/7/2019 8:45 PM

Just another way to try and take, eventually, all guns from law abiding citizens. Micromanaging keeps getting worse and worse every day. Pretty soon you won't be able to have a slingshot because it is a weapon, too.

1/7/2019 7:38 PM

People should also be aware of the attempt to require a gun owner to buy liability insurance for their guns. It would hit lower income people the hardest, to the point they might have to get rid of their guns.

1/7/2019 6:33 PM

I don't support any laws that infringe on our Constitutional Wrights. If You don't like our Constitution , go where you would like it. Edward Whiteford

1/7/2019 6:17 PM

Where does it all stop? Give them an inch they'll take it all!

1/7/2019 6:04 PM

Keep guns out of hands of crazy people and radical nuts at all costs

1/7/2019 5:49 PM

Is this a trick question, since, without any doubt whatsoever, it DOES infringe on the 1st,2nd and 4th amendments. But then, our current governor does not care about such trivial details, does he?

1/7/2019 4:55 PM

Invasion of privacy and 1st ammendment rights. 1 year of info should be sufficient

1/7/2019 4:39 PM

wake up people Between Trump and Cuomo this country is turning into a dicatorship

1/7/2019 4:19 PM

Next they will want to check my underwear!

1/7/2019 3:19 PM

Now you know why we lead the nation in people leaving NYS.

1/7/2019 2:45 PM

I oppose the idea as presented at this time. As it stands now, an unnamed bureaucrat will judge, without any criteria or oversight, whether a persons statements, viewing history, bookmarks, meme's, "likes/dislikes", etc. make him responsible enough to exercise his civil rights. And there's no mention of an adjudication and appeals process! So a hardcore liberal anti-gunner that hates Trump might strike down anyone who has any history in their media of ever supporting a cause the liberal hates. Does that sound like a common sense way to do this? How about we start looking at mental health, drug use, alcohol use, lifestyle, etc.? How about we start (gasp!) profiling obviously troubled people and getting them some help before they do something nutty? The solution presented, looking through social media, is a simplistic answer to an very complex problem. But it's an easy answer that would allow political appointees to poke around in peoples private lives and use what they find in who knows what manner! That's not just an invasion of privacy, that's a massively dumb idea that has so many potential down sides it boggles the mind! We need to get the dialogue open and going from both sides of this issue to come up with workable, effective answers. This is just a ridiculous idea put forth by politicians that want to appear to be "doing something". This is an enumerated, Constitutional right we're talking about here. We shouldn't take this lightly at all.

1/7/2019 2:35 PM

Cuomo has got to go same with all those lame liberal city slickers south of Utica. Just more liberal trash talk

1/7/2019 1:13 PM

Have you seen the downstate asshat who is proposing this law. Apparently, people downstate are electing memeing, ignorant liberal douchebags to every office.

1/7/2019 12:52 PM

I would say I have not used a computer in 3 years. Then what?

1/7/2019 12:30 PM

Strongly oppose. Not only does it infringe upon our rights to privacy. but it also creates a very blurry position of preventing people from getting permits based on the evaluator's own morals and views . It also ADDS a renewal for permits that up to now have been permanent. I wonder how much they'll start charging for that. I don't mind a background check every time I buy a gun or even a background check check every few years, but opening up social media and such... no way.

1/7/2019 12:05 PM

The Constitution is King!

1/7/2019 11:59 AM

While they are more then welcome to search anything that has been made public, this proposed legislation includes giving them passwords and log-in information which I do not support.

1/7/2019 11:56 AM

Absolutely oppose

1/7/2019 11:51 AM

Wouldn't people just say they don't use social media?

1/7/2019 11:34 AM

Just another way to control. Wake up people. Government wants to control every part of your life.

1/7/2019 11:25 AM

should go back 10yrs.

1/7/2019 11:11 AM

Make laws that punish the perpetrators who violate them!!!

1/7/2019 10:55 AM

NYS can do what they want but they will never take away my guns

1/7/2019 10:48 AM

Other than legitimate hunting weapons there are WAY too many guns out there.

1/7/2019 10:20 AM

I can see it being useful for school/college age young adults, but for most of us over 30, I don't see it doing much.

1/7/2019 10:10 AM

Bad Idea!

1/7/2019 9:54 AM

Idiotic. How many tens of thousands of man hours would it take to implement this asinine legislation?

1/7/2019 9:48 AM

Time after time – in retrospect – perpetrators of gun violence have used social media to telegraph their anger, their hate, and their intention. By doing so, the signposts have been clear that someone was nearing the edge of the abyss. Social media is a forensic tool that law enforcement already uses to determine criminal guilt. It is irresponsible not to use it to prevent crime. The most prevalent cause of suicide is death by gun. Stopping a gun death before it happens is good public health.

1/7/2019 9:38 AM

ny is going too far with the liberal communist extremism, i am putting my farm up for sale and moving to another state, maybe northern maine, southern alaska, montana, or north dakota

1/7/2019 9:30 AM

Another "Big Brother" idea

1/7/2019 9:09 AM


99.0% of unlawful pistol are caused by unlicensed users.So why are the powers that be are so worried about the law abiding citizens? Big Brother! They all have armed security.What about the Constitution???

1/7/2019 8:59 AM

The government already has its fingers in too much of our personal lives.

1/7/2019 8:56 AM

The ones that need the babysitting are the liberal nut jobs. They are the most delusional, untruthful nuts I have ever met. Anyone that listens to Schumer, Palosi or Cuomo need their heads examined.

1/7/2019 8:49 AM

what this country coming to when the government has to check on private lives?

1/7/2019 8:31 AM

We have enough of "Big Brother"just do the regular background checks. There is too much fake news on social media.

1/7/2019 8:28 AM

If your going to check new and old applicants then who is going to check on all the police officers who have pistols now. Oh wait they will most likely be given a loop hole on this one. Think this is just a little to intrusive on our rights. Besides Judge Jerry Richards won't give you a permit anyway.

1/7/2019 8:24 AM

While I personally support the measure, the SLC BofL has enough county business to attend to without weighing in on whether or not as a body they oppose or support pending state or federal legislation. I guess we didn't elect enough new ones!

1/7/2019 8:19 AM

Anyone who thinks that this is an acceptable idea needs to read about Hitler and his control over Germans prior to WWII. This is the ultimate infringement on your liberties. This creep of control will eventually denude citizens of their rights as guaranteed in our Constitution.

1/7/2019 8:15 AM

Its a infrigement to a persons privacy ,however I do strongly support backgroud checks .

1/7/2019 8:12 AM

Un-Constitutional for sure

1/7/2019 8:11 AM

No new york need to go back to the way it was we the people to start standing up for ourselves if ny city wants cuomo we need to draw the lines and let them have him we need do whats best for upstate

1/7/2019 8:02 AM

I oppose any new gun laws.

1/7/2019 7:27 AM

This is all to make a person feel it’s not worth the trouble.

1/7/2019 7:16 AM